No Evidence for 1st Century Nazareth

[godnotgod]

At least the gorilla has big balls. :biglaugh:

...balls filled mit Spam Supreme, mit all der fixins', dat is! More Empty Calories operating under the Divine Color of Straight-Faced but Thoroughly Deceptive Authority. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha....

 

[Heathen Hammer]

A good thread, too bad it seems to have run out of steam. I've made some of these arguments myself [for nonexistence prior], and met with similar resistance. Ah well.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

A good thread, too bad it seems to have run out of steam. I've made some of these arguments myself ....

And you're bragging about that? :biglaugh:

 

[Heathen Hammer]

I always brag about casting doubt on the falsehoods propitiated by the bible

I realize you are in the 'existed' camp; and I'm the opposite. Since the matter is far from settled, to pretend I'm somehow at fault, is baseless hubris.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I always brag about casting doubt on the falsehoods propitiated by the bible

I realize you are in the 'existed' camp; and I'm the opposite. Since the matter is far from settled, to pretend I'm somehow at fault, is baseless hubris.

:biglaugh:

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

He won't get it. He has a mantra to defend.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

He won't get it. He has a mantra to defend.

The funny thing is that there are actually many ways to criticize, attack, or otherwise express hatred for all things Christian. There are legitimate failures / stupidities in every Christian denomination and in church history.

Why people feel the need to fabricate reasons to attack the church is beyond me. The only thing that does is ruin their credibility.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

The funny thing is that there are actually many ways to criticize, attack, or otherwise express hatred for all things Christian. There are legitimate failures / stupidities in every Christian denomination and in church history.

Why people feel the need to fabricate reasons to attack the church is beyond me. The only thing that does is ruin their credibility.

I'm not sure that the intent is to attack the church so much as to posture as a skeptic. It truly does have a childish quality to it. There is also the unbridled arrogance of those - wholly unschooled in the fields of history and historiagraphy - who deem themselves qualified to adequately judge, embrace, and then promote fringe positions simply because they align with their presuppositions. Its a process that weds intellectual fraud with a contempt for scholarship.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I'm not sure that the intent is to attack the church so much as to posture as a skeptic. It truly does have a childish quality to it. There is also the unbridled arrogance of those - wholly unschooled in the fields of history and historiagraphy - who deem themselves qualified to adequately judge, embrace, and then promote fringe positions simply because they align with their presuppositions. Its a process that weds intellectual fraud with a contempt for scholarship.

I certainly agree that's part of it.

godnotgod is certainly attempting to use the "Nazareth myth" to attack the church and so does at least one of his sources.

And I was thinking more specifically of Heathen Hammer's:

I always brag about casting doubt on the falsehoods propitiated by the bible

 

[Heathen Hammer]

You people certainly subscribe to the false mantra that my criticism, or that of others, is hate. Live in delusion if you like. Your ad homs are certainly a form of it.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Out of curiosity, has godnotgod explained why the Gospel writers would foolishly fabricate a village and why the pagans and Jews never attacked the fabrication?

 

[Heathen Hammer]

I'm not sure that the intent is to attack the church so much as to posture as a skeptic. It truly does have a childish quality to it. There is also the unbridled arrogance of those - wholly unschooled in the fields of history and historiagraphy - who deem themselves qualified to adequately judge, embrace, and then promote fringe positions simply because they align with their presuppositions. Its a process that weds intellectual fraud with a contempt for scholarship.

My, you people certainly walk the line of insults, but I note this forum isn't as closely moderated. Very well. If you want to be stupid fundies who want to gladhand each other over your victory, on a subject that is actually alive and well [Nazareth most likely not existing during Jesus' supposed life], well, knock yourselves out. Preferably against a wall. You don't know anything about me yet, but make all sorts of asinine assumptions simply because your holy book is full of errors, to which your slavish obedience blinds you; and somehow my stating the obvious is 'hate'. Your childish behaviors are probably a good reason why you feel so persecuted.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

You people certainly subscribe to the false mantra that my criticism, or that of others, is hate.

Rubbish.

 

[Heathen Hammer]

Out of curiosity, has godnotgod explained why the Gospel writers would foolishly fabricate a village and why the pagans and Jews never attacked the fabrication?

I can explain it: they were repeating a falsehood told to them in earnest, and certainly weren't going to go tromping across the desert to simply go check if the place existed. Pretending a group of fringe Hebrew schismists were going to go checking their facts, is ludicrous. Also, it's not our job to police your holy book.

 

[Heathen Hammer]

Rubbish.

Rubbish yourself.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

If you want to be stupid fundies ...

I just got called a "stupid fundy." :biglaugh:

 

[Heathen Hammer]

Ah yes, a lol thread.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Out of curiosity, has godnotgod explained why the Gospel writers would foolishly fabricate a village and why the pagans and Jews never attacked the fabrication?

Nope. His spam doesn't tell him that, so he doesn't know.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I can explain it: they were repeating a falsehood told to them in earnest, and certainly weren't going to go tromping across the desert to simply go check if the place existed.

And you know that how?

Pretending a group of fringe Hebrew schismists were going to go checking their facts, is ludicrous.

Your knowledge of 2nd Temple Period Israel is laughable. More interesting is your willingness to denigrate 1st century Jewish and Pagan society as "fringe Hebrew schismists."

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I just got called a "stupid fundy." :biglaugh:

Wow.

Polemic.