Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
Sure I do but it's not a subjective evaluation to say that the devices we are using to communicate with one another were not created by animals inferior to us humans. That's a fact.
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ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
Ahhh, I think I understand you now.
You have no idea how to differentiate a subjective assessment from an objective fact. A lot of your arguments make sense now.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Another subjective one than your subjective benefit of subjectively declaring humans superior.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Try engaging a lion in hand-to-hand combat and then come let us know how superior you are to the other animals.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Your claim was, "Its quite obvious that humans are superior to and more valuable than animals."
Your claim doesn't make sense, given that humans are also animals.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
It's a fact to me.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
To me means that it is subjective to me. In this case you.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
It's not subjective to me at all.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Well, so for objective as external sensory experince -
-what does it look like as see with your eyes?
-what do it sound like?
-what does it taste lile?
-what does it smell like?
-what does it feeling like as per touch?
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
What?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
If it is not subjective, it is objective and one version is external sensory experince, primarly seeing through your eyes.
So if it is not subjective, describe it in objective terms and start by checking if you have any external sensory experince?
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Sorry, not doing this.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Okay, then by what other version of objective and not subjective do you know what you claim?
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
Sure it does. Just because we are animals doesn't mean we arent superior and more valuable. Why is this a problem for you? What's the need for reducing humans to the level of other animals?
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
Sure I do. It's an objective fact that the devices we are using to communicate with one another were not created by lower animals. We humans are superior to and more valuable than other animals.
Why is there a need to reduce humans to the level of inferior animals?
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Doesn't mean we are, either.
Just pointing out that your claim doesn't make sense.
Just stating facts.
You keep speaking of humans as though they aren't animals. Well, we are.
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
Do you not read? I have explicitly stated we are animals. We just happen to be superior to and more valuable to other animals. Have you been so thoroughly brain washed that you can't see humans are superior to other animals? You're so afraid to "judge" that you reduce humans to the level of inferior animals.
I will ask you AGAIN what is the need to reduce humans to the level of other animals? Are you afraid to offend your dog?
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Yes, I can, thank you.
I read this, "Its quite obvious that humans are superior to and more valuable than animals."
And concluded that it doesn't make sense. Then I explained to you why.
Brainwashed by whom, and for what, exactly?
When did you demonstrate that humans are superior to all other animals?
You ignored what I pointed out about engaging in a hand-to-hand fight with a lion. Why is that?
Adherence to the facts of reality.
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
It's hilarious because you think your explanation makes sense. The trouble it is has no bearing on the facts.
Because your example is simplistic. How many lions have humans in cages? Humans are superior in that they created guns to kill the lion. What has the lion come up with to defeat humans? Oh right nothing. You want your surgeon to be a lion right?
"Adherence to the facts of reality"? LMBO Let me guess woman have penises, right? Lol Some people wouldnt adhere to reality even if it was stapled to them.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
My explanation of what? We're talking about your statement.
It was a question. It had nothing to do with humans or anything in cages.
There are no guns in my question. But even if you had one, there's no guarantee you're going to win against a lion.
Brute strength. Giant claws. Huge teeth and mouth.
This questions makes no sense at all.
This was in response to your question, "I will ask you AGAIN what is the need to reduce humans to the level of other animals?"
Humans are animals. It's a pretty basic fact of reality.
Try sticking to the topic at hand, rather than jumping all over the place.
Also, try answering a question once in a while. It will facilitate a smoother conversation.