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[Ignatius A]

Measure as relevant: assess the importance, effect, or value of (something).
That is what you do and you don't do that by seeing through your eyes or even "seeing".

It's far more valuable to have human fire dept than a dog fire dept.

 

[Ignatius A]

Goodness. As if humans, who also invented HVACs, couldn't figure out what to do with piles of dung if we had to. Which thankfully, we don't.

Look, I think all animals are valuable, I just think humans are the most valuable.

I agree 120%

 

[Kathryn]

The human for that context if no other information was avilable.
Now if it were a dog breeding place and I could save say a hundred dogs and the person was really really old, then it might be different.
On the other hand it was a baby, then it would be the baby.
See, context.

Yeah, I see what you mean. I don't agree with it but I see what you mean.

 

[Ignatius A]

So if a dog you know and love is in a house fire and you don't know the human who is also in the house fire, who would you save (pretty inconsistent in my book but whatever)?

This should be good.

 

[Kathryn]

I agree 120%

I'd go so far as to say that a dog probably really, really wants to get rescued from a burning building, but I believe a person wants it more.

 

[Ignatius A]

Yeah, I see what you mean. I don't agree with it but I see what you mean.

I love the condition with the100 dogs, if the person is really really old. Lol

 

[Ignatius A]

I'd go so far as to say that a dog probably really, really wants to get rescued from a burning building, but I believe a person wants it more.

And deserves it more.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

It's far more valuable to have human fire dept than a dog fire dept.

No, I can't see that through my eyes. so I don't see that. You are using valuable:
-having desirable or esteemed characteristics or qualities
valuable friendships

Definition of VALUABLE

having monetary value; worth a good price; having desirable or esteemed characteristics or qualities… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

That seems to be connect to a feeling/emotion as per desirable or esteemed.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I love the condition with the100 dogs, if the person is really really old. Lol

Yeah. love is an emotion/feeling. And so is LOL.

 

[Kathryn]

And deserves it more.

Any person, young or old or whatever.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

And deserves it more.

Deserve: do something or have or show qualities worthy of (a reaction which rewards or punishes as appropriate).

Yet another feeling/emotion.

 

[Ignatius A]

No, I can't see that through my eyes. so I don't see that. You are using valuable:
-having desirable or esteemed characteristics or qualities
valuable friendships

Definition of VALUABLE

having monetary value; worth a good price; having desirable or esteemed characteristics or qualities… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

That seems to be connect to a feeling/emotion as per desirable or esteemed.

Yes things that are superior tend to be more valuable

 

[Ignatius A]

Yeah. love is an emotion/feeling. And so is LOL.

Yes it is. Good for yiu

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Yes things that are superior tend to be more valuable

So back to the verb be and the different defintions.

 

[Ignatius A]

Deserve: do something or have or show qualities worthy of (a reaction which rewards or punishes as appropriate).

Yet another feeling/emotion.

Worthy is not an emotion. You can decide what's worthy based on emotion or cognition. Cognition shows humans are more deserving of life than dogs. Emotions show that some people choose their dogs over humans.

 

[Ignatius A]

So back to the verb be and the different defintions.

Thats a you problem. It's better you focus on the minuta rather than the point

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Worthy is not an emotion. You can decide what's worthy based on emotion or cognition. Cognition shows humans are more deserving of life than dogs. Emotions show that some people choose their dogs over humans.

Worthy: having or showing the qualities that deserve the specified action or regard
Deserve: do something or have or show qualities worthy of (a reaction which rewards or punishes as appropriate).
Qualities: the standard of something as measured against other things of a similar kind; the degree of excellence of something.

So back to measure we are.

 

[Ignatius A]

Worthy: having or showing the qualities that deserve the specified action or regard
Deserve: do something or have or show qualities worthy of (a reaction which rewards or punishes as appropriate).
Qualities: the standard of something as measured against other things of a similar kind; the degree of excellence of something.

So back to measure we are.

No just restating humans are superior to dogs and every other animal.

It's also good you abandoned that foolishness about emotions and harm arising from them.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

No just restating humans are superior to dogs and every other animal.

It's also good you abandoned that foolishness about emotions and harm arising from them.

Well, just expålain what you see as through your eyes as in effect superior. You know -color, form and so on. And all the other factors for something objective.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Humans are superior. If that offends you and your dog then I guess you're offended.

Didn't say I was offended, chum. Just pointing out the simple fact that facts are different to opinions. Sorry you're so offended when you're told your subjective opinion is a subjective opinion.

Drop a shark in the middle of my yard, how superior would be be? What's wrong with you? This ridiculous line of reasoning that humans can only be superior if they hard superior in all things is illogical at best.

So you acknowledge that there are some ways, and some circumstances, in which a shark is superior to a human, therefore the assessment is contextual and subjective.

Congratulations.