Noah's Arc and the Flood?

[rational experiences]

The pyramids are megalithic engineering achievements common to most ancient megalithic structure all over the world. Nothing of science here beyond the common science knowledge of ancient structure by ancient cultures.

That's why the design plan is similar to a nuclear fuel power plant layout, between the pyramid and the Temples. And it is why science studied the concepts of the ancients as science, for science has to own the machination and the buildings to apply the sciences.

You look at the floor plan of a Temple and its basic structure looks like the inside of a transmitter radio.

Now if science says to the scientist, you updated your VISION design that you gain in your mind in study concepts...to the power plant.....then he would be advised that he did.

And then if you ask him, so where did the collider design come from and it would be related to his own nuclear power plant owning conversion of the nuclear dusts.

So as a male you would say, so O God the Earth owns natural. God O the Earth historically was attacked by the Sun. Males as humans thought about it...then tried to copy it. I would then quantify that history as being the Destroyer of life on Earth, just like the biblical knowledge says.

For when a male says, when I never even existed all reacted states had reacted and evolution of the hot states owned cold evolution. I would not be enabled to lie claiming that a human bio body owned any Universal history within their own body.

Yet science today is supported to tell those lies.....just as science lied about the Ark.

For O God is the stone law of fusion, and is itself an ARK by explanation of its form...O a travelling and moving body of O a timed cycle that moves through space as the natural laws of God.

And science most certainly does not in any thinking capability own that natural status....God O the Earth did.

 

[dad]

Your the one making the foolish insulting remarks and not presenting any evidence to support your claims.

No. You are.

 

[dad]

O yes it is! It remains in debate and dialogue insults and abuse are not a replacement of evidence, which you have failed to present.

Don't be insulting. Face your defeat with grace.

 

[dad]

Where's the evidence?

Well, looking at the topic here we need to admit science has no evidence that the events recorded about Noah are not accurate.
It should be noted also that the religious criteria science uses to model the past renders it useless in any worthwhile discussion of the matter.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No. You are.

dad, I need to remind you that you do not understand the nature of evidence. In other words when it comes to evidence you don't know the difference between your donkey and a hole in the ground.

You are in no position to judge

 

[dad]

dad, I need to remind you that you do not understand the nature of evidence. In other words when it comes to evidence you don't know the difference between your donkey and a hole in the ground.

You are in no position to judge

We have a duty to dismiss those who talk of the nature of evidence and demonstrate post after wasted post that they neither have any nor would recognize any if it fell out of their tin hat.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

That is what we read in the bible. Have you other records of the time?

The bible is wrong.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

No. You are.

You argue like a 5-year old.

 

[sooda]

We have a duty to dismiss those who talk of the nature of evidence and demonstrate post after wasted post that they neither have any nor would recognize any if it fell out of their tin hat.

The original flood story is much older than Noah. The story has been found on clay tablets in Sumer, Babylon, Dilmun and Ras Shamra.

During the Babylonian exile the Jews learned the story. Previously they had no foundational narratives.

After the exile, they adapted the story to make it their own.

'Noah': Flood Myths Are Far Older Than Bible | Time
https://time.com/44631/noah-christians-flood-aronofsky
Apr 02, 2014 · The translation of ancient cuneiform tablets in the 19th century confirmed the Mesopotamian flood myth as an antecedent of the Noah story in the Bible. In an interview with the London Telegraph, Irving Finkel, a curator at the British Museum and …

 

[Subduction Zone]

We have a duty to dismiss those who talk of the nature of evidence and demonstrate post after wasted post that they neither have any nor would recognize any if it fell out of their tin hat.

Oh my! dad just said that we have a duty to dismiss his posts.

For once I agree 100%.

 

[rational experiences]

When a human male who is conscious, knows his 2 parents have sex, as humans to have his life lived today. When he knows that science today is to re the source.

And that the source he uses is out of the body of God O the Earth.

Then tries to convince his own self that his spirit is the Holy Grail and he can resource it in values of God and Jesus Christ, male or man inferred. Says and eternal means a never ending resource. You would wonder at his sanity.

You would wonder, are you possessed by the statements of God in AI...and believe self to be a devil? A D value and EVIL?

You know D as half of O a whole value of light 12?

And then think oh, the riches I would own....yet if you wanted eternal your claim is to be self sacrificed, and be just a spirit afterwards....so you would not claim to want to be that resource. Nor would you want to be anything other than an eternal spirit forever and ever.

In reality that would mean your personal male and group self motivation was to have God the planet destroyed for it held you in human life. And you would then return to being the other part of your spirit eternal forever and ever and never intended to be any resource....and it is just a con.

That would be how I would explain why males told self, I copied what God told me to copy, the UFO metal ark attack on Earth and its carbonisation. The ARK of wood, as done to the O ARK of God, the planet moving through space like a ship as the covenant of stone....fusion.

 

[sooda]

You argue like a 5-year old.

@dad @sojourner

The Torah's Version of the Flood Story - TheTorah.com
https://www.thetorah.com/article/the-torahs-version-of-the-flood-story

If you think Noah’s Flood was a universal deluge rising to 15 cubits above Mt Ararat in 2100 BCE (1656 years after Creation), give or take or few years, forget it, it never happened; there is overwhelming evidence that most life around the planet continued on its normal course. Does that mean that the story of Noah’s Ark is a fantasy? Not ...

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Dr. Rabbi

Norman Solomon

Noah’s Ark (1846), a painting by the American folk painter Edward Hicks

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In 1929, while excavating Abraham’s native city of Ur, the great British archaeologist Leonard Woolley (1880-1960) observed a thick layer of sediment covering the valley. Not a man to shy away from publicity, Woolley telegraphed messages to the leading newspapers in Britain and the USA announcing that he had found proof of Noah’s Flood. But he was a scholar too, so when he compiled his report, Ur of the Chaldees: A Record of Seven Years of Excavation (London: Ernest Benn Ltd., 1935), he acknowledged that what he had discovered was evidence not of a universal deluge, but of a disaster confined to the lower Tigris/Euphrates valley.

Knowledge of the ancient world has increased exponentially since Woolley’s time. If you think Noah’s Flood was a universal deluge rising to 15 cubits above Mt Ararat in 2100 BCE (1656 years after Creation), give or take or few years, forget it, it never happened; there is overwhelming evidence that most life around the planet continued on its normal course.

Does that mean that the story of Noah’s Ark is a fantasy? Not at all. The truth behind the words is more wonderful than the plain meaning, and reaches far back in time. The story of a Great Flood sent by God or the gods to destroy civilization as an act of divine retribution is widespread; there are the legends of Matsya in the Hindu Puranas, of Deucalion in Greek mythology, there are stories from China, and in the Americas the Toltecs, Aztecs and Inca are just some of those who told similar tales. Closest to the biblical narrative – as Woolley knew – is the episode of Utnapishtim, Noah’s equivalent in the Babylonian Epic of Gilgamesh. Fragments have been found of earlier versions, in Sumerian, dating back to the third millennium BCE, long before Genesis; Sumerians call the hero Ziusudra, meaning ‘he saw life.’

Creationists falsify the evidence, claiming that all these stories are reminiscences of one and the same Great Flood, Noah’s Flood, but they are wrong. There were many floods, many memories, in many parts of the world. The geological record is clear. Humankind has survived vast catastrophes since the northern ice sheet retreated following the last ice age, among them the pluvials, when the North American lakes formed and the Mediterranean area was subjected to frequent inundations.

 

[dad]

The original flood story is much older than Noah. The story has been found on clay tablets in Sumer, Babylon, Dilmun and Ras Shamra.

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Your dates are wrong. Show the basis for them. In case you don't, for lurkers, the basis is the same state past belief.

 

[dad]

The bible is wrong.

No. God is right.

 

[dad]

You argue like a 5-year old.

I know you are but what am I?

 

[dad]

If you think Noah’s Flood was a universal deluge rising to 15 cubits above Mt Ararat in 2100 BCE (1656 years after Creation), give or take or few years, forget it, it never happened; there is overwhelming evidence that most life around the planet continued on its normal course. Does that mean that the story of Noah’s Ark is a fantasy?.

No. The big mountains uplifted in post-flood mountain building most likely.

 

[sooda]

Your dates are wrong. Show the basis for them. In case you don't, for lurkers, the basis is the same state past belief.

Well, the Babylonians and Sumerians had written language by 3000 BC... 1800 years before the Hebrews.
Clay tablets from Babylon, Ras Shamra and Dilmun attest to that fact.

 

[sooda]

No. The big mountains uplifted in post-flood mountain building most likely.

LOLOLOL.. I feel sorry for you.. Such ignorance in 2020 is beyond belief.

Even the old mountain ranges like the Smokie Mountains are hundreds of millions of years old. How the hell did this happen to you?

 

[rational experiences]

Scientists when they study past O God Earth information as the first spiritual male group, who a modern day male looking back described as the brotherhood of male Satanists, angels who fell....but that story was after the fact.

So the original story which males today ignored, the original male higher spiritual group of males discussing information together O living on God Earth, as the highest ever human form expected the reaction flood to remove their life and Nature from off Earth.

By what the information and reaction said.

Yet in the circumstance WATER FLOOD evaporated and interacted reacted with the Earth body and its eruptions and changes itself.

What science never owns, MASS natural change.

So God says in the bible information that he was innocent as that male and never knew, so never wanted the Nature or his self to suffer the consequences of just being radiated attacked.

How the biblical story relates how God the human being first pyramid scientists changed the Earth body and Garden Nature and self....and new spirit then had to interact in life on Earth.

Just as stated, and yet you all ignore what is said.

Science says I am a little form of the Universal creation and lie....for you are not powers that interact and react in natural form...we live within water and oxygen and microbial mass.

Science builds a machine from God stone and then says that the atmosphere will interact in a small way of all of its interactions/powers in that small way, just because UFO radiation attacked his small life as that science self a long time ago.

Yet originally the large UFO radiation metal mass interacted with Earth in a big huge way.

So humans and Nature and animals demonstrate physical death or attack and science ignores their own teaching relativity, that they are all liars.

For no machine is ever going to just small react with huge massive reactions as they so desire it, as based on self idealism.....of how self was affected a long time ago as human science memory.

Where all the fake basis of their fake beliefs about self and that science UFO radiation mass history came from.

So try telling a scientist that he is a liar, when God already told you, and so was God in his non sensible reasoning that he would get the SAME. God told you he never did, and God the condition review history said and so I learnt.

Not to lie to self.

You cannot know what it is to be a liar, unless you owned lying first to then learn to then change your own mind.

 

[shunyadragon]

Well, looking at the topic here we need to admit science has no evidence that the events recorded about Noah are not accurate.
It should be noted also that the religious criteria science uses to model the past renders it useless in any worthwhile discussion of the matter.

Evidence has been cited there was no world flood and the earth is billions of years old.

Where is your evidence? Still waiting . . .