Non-Binary

[McBell]

Let me put it this way; for ME and people who think like me, it is still synonym for sex; for YOU and people who think like you; it is not. I'm saying for you and people like you, gender has become a meaningless description for a person

Yes.
Your arbitrary stubbornness is common.
For now.
But the winds of change are blowing, as they always do.
So it will not be long before you and your kin are the few, the proud, the left behind.

 

[McBell]

IMO the problem is the fact that the normal being pushed is men have children and women have a penis.

The only ones I have seen pushing that nonsense is yourself and those who think like you.
Such strawmen are actually rather comical.
You guys should do a show together.

 

[We Never Know]

The only ones I have seen pushing that nonsense is yourself and those who think like you.
Such strawmen are actually rather comical.
You guys should do a show together.

Funny! I'm not pushing any of that.

However I am being told that.

So explain to me how I am pushing that.

 

[McBell]

When you divorce gender from biology (which is what you are doing) gender no longer has anything to do with the medical field.

You really ought to let the medical field in on that secret.
The whole field seems to have missed that memo.

 

[McBell]

Funny! I'm not pushing any of that.

However I am being told that.

So explain to me how I am pushing that.

See post #278

 

[We Never Know]

See post #278

Yes that's what I said.

Are you denying that we are being told that transgender men have babies and transgender women have a penis?

Hence men have babies and women have a penis.

Do you agree or disagree? Explain

 

[The Hammer]

When you divorce gender from biology (which is what you are doing) gender no longer has anything to do with the medical field.

Like I said, tell that to the medical field. Then you can move on to sociology, and psychology, and anthropology.

The world doesn't line up into the neat little boxes you think it does. Get over yourself.

Edit: don't forget to take on the whole of Merriam-Webster: Sex vs. Gender: How They’re Different

 

[We Never Know]

Edit: don't forget to take on the whole of Merriam-Webster: Sex vs. Gender: How They’re Different

Yep. One is physical and one is mental.

But its not a mental thing. Do you accept that?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

But we don't give each personality a different name do we.

No, and so what? Is it that you don't like it and consider it meaningless. Well, that are feelings and thoughts and that is the point of this. You can't do a human life without feelings and thoughts,

 

[crossfire]

My mother had a reduction at 16 because she was getting hit on by 30 years old men. And to prevent future back injury.

Thank you for sharing this. A breast reduction is much preferable to and safer than the breast ironing girls have to endure in Africa to avoid this.

Breast ironing - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Kfox]

No idea how you connected those dots.

Biological females can get pregnant. If you can believe a biological female can become a man...... if you still aren't getting this, I don't know how to explain it to you any easier.

 

[Kfox]

Yes.
Your arbitrary stubbornness is common.
For now.
But the winds of change are blowing, as they always do.
So it will not be long before you and your kin are the few, the proud, the left behind.

After your "winds of change" have blown, will anybody be able to tell the difference between a man vs a woman?

 

[Kfox]

You really ought to let the medical field in on that secret.
The whole field seems to have missed that memo.

Just because you say it, doesn't make it true.

 

[Kfox]

Like I said, tell that to the medical field. Then you can move on to sociology, and psychology, and anthropology.

The world doesn't line up into the neat little boxes you think it does. Get over yourself.

Edit: don't forget to take on the whole of Merriam-Webster: Sex vs. Gender: How They’re Different

Perhaps you can provide a list of biologists in the medical field that says men can get pregnant.

 

[Kfox]

No, and so what? Is it that you don't like it and consider it meaningless.

If each feeling and each thought had a different name, those names would be meaningless.

 

[Argentbear]

Yes that's what I said.

Are you denying that we are being told that transgender men have babies and transgender women have a penis?

Hence men have babies and women have a penis.

you changed wording in these two sentences. Did you think no one would notice?

 

[Argentbear]

Biological females can get pregnant.

so can a transgender man

 

[Argentbear]

Just because you say it, doesn't make it true.

just because you deny it doesn't make it false

 

[SalixIncendium]

Because the tool is not a widget, and if the person has a prostate, instead of a uterus, testis instead of ovaries, and XY chromosomes instead of XX, they are not a woman. Now just because I do not accept them as being a woman does not mean I am gonna sit there and argue with them; I will just accept them as being delusional the same way I would if a 40 year old told me he were 12.

You completely abandoned your metaphor and are now presenting a completely unconnected argument.

 

[crossfire]

So, should young women with or without gender dysphoria have to jump through extra hoops to have breast reductions or mastectomies, given the health benefits of it? Simple question.

And guess what---I'm still waiting for a straight answer to this simple question.