Not only Natural Laws but Rules of Evolution?

[YoursTrue]

"I refuse to try to learn anything, because then I might be proven incorrect, and how can that be, since I'm always right? More than all them gullible scienterists put together! And anyway, education is hard work AND expensive, so who needs it? Eh?"

Not that they PROVED anything consistent with the theory. Birds so far have remained birds...dinosaurs notwithstanding. They're extinct. Oh yes, I take vaccines when I decide to and have respect for those who developed them.

 

[YoursTrue]

What a bizarre non sequitur.

No it isn't. You hope you and your family doesn't get hurt by outside interference like war, drunk driver savages, inept medical treatment, and the like. That's part of your hope...right? Oh, also drowning. Being shot by a gun invented by those you consider non-savages, right? Just trying to help out with understanding your hope for the future. I hope no one suffers. But so far that hope isn't being realized.

 

[YoursTrue]

"I refuse to try to learn anything, because then I might be proven incorrect, and how can that be, since I'm always right? More than all them gullible scienterists put together! And anyway, education is hard work AND expensive, so who needs it? Eh?"

Yeah. Some scientists love to explore caves and all like that.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

One thing stands out to me...the theory of evolution entails the fact/idea that all living matter dies. And now it does.

The theory doesn't state that. It is not a theory making claims about death. That you insist on making this straw man as a centerpiece of your denial is a discussion I have no interest in perpetuating as it has no logical end. I answer in good faith, but I do not feel that is reciprocated.

 

[YoursTrue]

Oh sure, their morphology and underlying population genotype changed over time from the ancestral forms that have been dated as existing prior to this population. And this evidence, as part of that pattern of change, demonstrates evolution. And there is no evidence that extending this, coupled with further observed change and evidence from numerous other sources, is not a step along a path to further evolution and wider phylogenesis. But they are still mammoths.

It is no more proof of evolution than a claim that the Bible is dictated has proof.

I never it was dictated. Except certain parts but not a lot.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Yeah. Some scientists love to explore caves and all like that.

Is that supposed to have some meaning?

 

[YoursTrue]

The theory doesn't state that. It is not a theory making claims about death. That you insist on making this straw man as a centerpiece of your denial is a discussion I have no interest in perpetuating as it has no logical end. I answer in good faith, but I do not feel that is reciprocated.

I am repeating what someone here who hates the Bible's message and is a staunch evolutionist believes. Does everything die or does it not?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I am repeating what someone here who hates the Bible's message and is a staunch evolutionist believes. Does everything die or does it not?

I DO NOT WISH TO ENGAGE IN YOUR OFFTOPIC DISCUSSION INVOVLING STRAW MEN!

 

[YoursTrue]

Is that supposed to have some meaning?

Lol you missed it. Ok. It's ok. I will repeat though for your edification. Some educated individuals love exploring caves, oceans (like the capsule that apparently imploded) and the like. That is their enjoyment in life.

 

[YoursTrue]

I DO NOT WISH TO ENGAGE IN YOUR OFFTOPIC DISCUSSION INVOVLING STRAW MEN!

Then please don't refer to my posts, overtly or slyly. Thank you.

 

[YoursTrue]

I DO NOT WISH TO ENGAGE IN YOUR OFFTOPIC DISCUSSION INVOVLING STRAW MEN!

Then please don't refer to my posts, overtly or slyly. Thank you.

 

[YoursTrue]

If you don't consider science trustworthy, then perhaps you should consider tossing all of your technology and medication into the trash.

Some I have. And I am thankful for what I have learned about doctors and meds. Still, I take vaccines when I decide to. And I'm thankful some men and women explored the principles of developing vaccines.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Then please don't refer to my posts, overtly or slyly. Thank you.

I will refer to whatever topic is being discussed. It is an open forum. If you don't want others discussing topics you raise, then do not raise them.

But when someone tells you that they do not want to discuss something with YOU, it would be in your best interest, consistent with Christian values, decorum and civility to heed that request. Continually bothering them against that request is harrassment.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

One thing to add to these rules is connected to the role of the brain and nervous system. Dinosaurs had plenty of muscle mass, but very small brains for their size. Muscle has memory and nerves, and is therefore not too far from a rudimentary form of brain matter. The large dinosaur could depend on the computer power of their muscles and brain stem, to do most of his simple needs; routine walking or chewing, with this constant activity adding a potential to amplify their small brain, through feedback loops, pushing the brain forward.

You do the same yourself. Huge numbers of the things you do every day -- walking, breathing, typing, playing a musical instrument, hitting a ball with a bat, or a racket, or a puck with a stick -- you couldn't do any of that if you actually had to use your brain to think your way through it.

 

[YoursTrue]

Topic is rules and laws of evolution. Does evolution involve the dying of the organism?

 

[YoursTrue]

I will refer to whatever topic is being discussed. It is an open forum. If you don't want others discussing topics you raise, then do not raise them.

But when someone tells you that they do not want to discuss something with YOU, it would be in your best interest, consistent with Christian values, decorum and civility to heed that request. Continually bothering them against that request is harrassment.

I realize you're a moderator, no matter. We're all human. Why speak about Christian values when it's an open forum more or less. Just ignore me if you can with your moderation duties.

 

[YoursTrue]

I realize some people don't like to be put to the test.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I realize you're a moderator, no matter. We're all human. Why speak about Christian values when it's an open forum more or less. Just ignore me if you can with your moderation duties.

I was/am ignoring your attempts to find any reason no matter how seemingly illogical and unfounded to deny science. That is the problem. You can't seem to reciprocate. Even now, you feel you must get the last word in and force yourself upon me.

I mention the Christian values to provide stark contrast to the actions I see taken.

You have made it clear that you have no interest in a rational discussion of the topics related to this science. I agree. I don't feel the need to discuss it with you by your means.

 

[YoursTrue]

I was/am ignoring your attempts to find any reason no matter how seemingly illogical and unfounded to deny science. That is the problem. You can't seem to reciprocate. Even now, you feel you must get the last word in and force yourself upon me.

I mention the Christian values to provide stark contrast to the actions I see taken.

You have made it clear that you have no interest in a rational discussion of the topics related to this science. I agree. I don't feel the need to discuss it with you by your means.

I disagree. Please do ignore me. Thank you.

 

[YoursTrue]

I deny what is illogical and without substance. Some people deny the effectiveness of vaccines. I wonder how many who say I'm a science denier believe in and appreciate vaccines?