Now Belgium bans burqa in public places

[Badran]

I think it's questionable.

I think there should be rules as to the design of the headpiece,
and that tickets should be given to any covering
that impairs visibility in any direction,
as well as the ability to properly, fully, and EASILY turn one's head
to look behind.

This woman certainly won't be playing the violin however.

I think you have a very complicated impression of this, have you ever met a woman in real life who wears this? They turn their heads and drive just fine.

 

[Badran]

That, would impair my vision for driving.

Well, lets put it this way. They drive with this, in real life, and i haven't heard any complaints. And, unlike places such as Afghanistan and the like, women are not forced (except may be in some cases of course, there are always exceptions) to wear it. Most of them wear it not as an obligation, but rather as an extra effort at chastity, in the hope that this would make them closer to god.

 

[blackout]

If the design of their coverings truly does not impair their vision for driving
then it is a non issue.
Some designs would most DEFINATELY impair vision.
Others may not.

 

[Sunstone]

If the design of their coverings truly does not impair their vision for driving
then it is a non issue.
Some designs would most DEFINATELY impair vision.
Others may not.

I think women should wear pirate eye patches while driving, but maybe that's just me.

 

[Badran]

The one you posted at the beginning with the nest thing, definitely would make huge problems in driving, and i don't think women who wear it actually drive, because i'm not aware of any place where they wear it, except Afghanistan.

 

[blackout]

I think women should wear pirate eye patches while driving, but maybe that's just me.

Yeah. On both eyes.

 

[kai]

I think women should wear pirate eye patches while driving, but maybe that's just me.

I think they should wear them at all times, unless in the private presence of their husbands, other women or male relatives. |Oh and a cutless

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Most of the women who wear the full veil in Bradford completely cover their faces, you can not even see their eyes. They peer though a fine black gauze veil forming the slit.

You will also see them driving.

 

[Kathryn]

I think it's common sense to require burqas to be removed when safety or security issues are in question. I think that laws requiring their removal in these instances make perfect sense and should be enacted immediately, if not sooner.

However, outright bans on burqas because of what they "symbolize" are totally, totally out of line in my opinion. If we're going to ban burqas based on symbolism, we may as well ban these as well:

Penacostal hair styles

Catholic (or Jewish) headcovering

Evangelical televangelist style!

Quakers

Mennonites

Indian caste system

Mormon undergarments

There are elements of all of the above groups that other groups consider demeaning to women. Should these articles of clothing be outlawed because of what they symbolize to other people outside these sects and groups?

These people should only be detained by the fashion police!

 

[Cypress]

As I always say: Burqa for men!

 

[Alceste]

Seems ironic - whether the burqa is required or prohibited, both positions involve dictating dress codes to women. IMO, support for this regulation is support for the misogynistic idea women can't be trusted to make their own fashion decisions independently of the state.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Seems ironic - whether the burqa is required or prohibited, both positions involve dictating dress codes to women. IMO, support for this regulation is support for the misogynistic idea women can't be trusted to make their own fashion decisions independently of the state.

Yes. Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes and yes. :clap

 

[Cypress]

IMO, support for this regulation is support for the misogynistic idea women can't be trusted to make their own fashion decisions independently of the state.

Wondering how many women make this fashion decision themselves and for how many it is made by others.

 

[Cypress]

Yes. Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes and yes. :clap

Wondering how a woman who does not want to wear the burqa can stand up against her father, her brother(s) and possibly her mother.

 

[beenie]

Seems ironic - whether the burqa is required or prohibited, both positions involve dictating dress codes to women. IMO, support for this regulation is support for the misogynistic idea women can't be trusted to make their own fashion decisions independently of the state.

i agree and even said so several times. oppression and distrust is oppression and distrust.

Wondering how a woman who does not want to wear the burqa can stand up against her father, her brother(s) and possibly her mother.

since when do we take away the rights of the majority for the sake of the minority? such people who "force their women" to wear a burqa will simply pack up and go to a Muslim-friendly environment and force them there.

 

[blackout]

Most of the women who wear the full veil in Bradford completely cover their faces, you can not even see their eyes. They peer though a fine black gauze veil forming the slit.

You will also see them driving.

That is frightening.

How can this be legal?

 

[doppelganger]

I think women should only be allowed to cover their eyes.

But that's just me.

 

[blackout]

I think women should only be allowed to cover their eyes.

But that's just me.

Nope. That's Sunstone's stance as well.

I say however,
It's the MEN who should cover their eyes,
if they can't handle looking at a woman's face,
hands, arms, legs, WHATEVER
without feeling inclined to "sin",
then it's their responsibility to rectify
the weakness of THEIR OWN sex.

Don't demand that other people sacrifice themSelves
for the sake of YOUR OWN WEAKNESS.

 

[blackout]

As I always say: Burqa for men!

It'd save us all the eyesore of ALOT of ugly mugs. :yes:

 

[.lava]

Wondering how a woman who does not want to wear the burqa can stand up against her father, her brother(s) and possibly her mother.

i could not take oppression from family and oppression from government equal. when you're oppressed by government you basicaly have no place to ask for help. but at the end, it is always women who pay the price which is very disturbing

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