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Now it's Hillary vs. Trump... how will you pick?

Draka

Wonder Woman
You will have to explain this for I fail to see how it is true.
In my mind, if the system has truly changed then Sanders wouldn't be having to use it to get supporters. By using the broken "two party system" he only perpetuates it. JMO though.
 

TurkeyOnRye

Well-Known Member
Honestly if it's not Sanders I might go back to not voting.

Honestly, I think not voting is the most pathetic form of protest. The apathy...it really You can make all the excuses you want to not vote; they're only designed to deflect feelings of hopelessness. Whether you like it or not, the decision-making process will carry on without you, and the results of those decisions will continue to affect your life. Sorry, but it's attitudes like 'this' that are the problem with the political process. And you know it.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
Honestly, I think not voting is the most pathetic form of protest. The apathy...it really You can make all the excuses you want to not vote; they're only designed to deflect feelings of hopelessness. Whether you like it or not, the decision-making process will carry on without you, and the results of those decisions will continue to affect your life. Sorry, but it's attitudes like 'this' that are the problem with the political process. And you know it.
It simply cries of a child whining that if they don't get to play exactly how they want, despite being in a group of other children, they will take their ball and go home. It's the equivalent of a childish temper tantrum and just selfish.
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Honestly, I think not voting is the most pathetic form of protest. The apathy...it really You can make all the excuses you want to not vote; they're only designed to deflect feelings of hopelessness. Whether you like it or not, the decision-making process will carry on without you, and the results of those decisions will continue to affect your life. Sorry, but it's attitudes like 'this' that are the problem with the political process. And you know it.

I'm crushed by the massive ignorance of our political system in this thread. It's like helping Hitler round up Jew's cause "it'll happen anyways!"
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
I'm crushed by the massive ignorance of our political system in this thread. It's like helping Hitler round up Jew's cause "it'll happen anyways!"
No, it's more like taking no stance either way and not giving a crap what happens and not bothering to do anything because you don't get things exactly the way you want when you want it. It's defeatist. It's lazy. It's juvenile. You don't throw up your hands and go "oh well, the system is bad so I won't bother", you keep working on changing it until it is better. You don't sit in your house and complain that the furnace doesn't work when you use your thermostat and you are cold, you try to fix the problem. You don't just up and decide to freeze because you thought it was the thermostat and it wasn't so you aren't going to bother with the problem at all. You deal with the furnace or the breaker box, or the gas supply or whatever else it may be. You don't just decide to freeze and then whine and complain about your situation because you are too damn lazy to deal with anything other than the thermostat.
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
No, it's more like taking no stance either way and not giving a crap what happens and not bothering to do anything because you don't get things exactly the way you want when you want it. It's defeatist. It's lazy. It's juvenile. You don't throw up your hands and go "oh well, the system is bad so I won't bother", you keep working on changing it until it is better. You don't sit in your house and complain that the furnace doesn't work when you use your thermostat and you are cold, you try to fix the problem. You don't just up and decide to freeze because you thought it was the thermostat and it wasn't so you aren't going to bother with the problem at all. You deal with the furnace or the breaker box, or the gas supply or whatever else it may be. You don't just decide to freeze and then whine and complain about your situation because you are too damn lazy to deal with anything other than the thermostat.

Yes, upholding the system is the best way to show you're not falling for it. What a genius! You get them Jew's cause Hitler said so!
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
Yes, upholding the system is the best way to show you're not falling for it. What a genius! You get them Jew's cause Hitler said so!
You do realize you make absolutely no sense right? Oh, you don't realize that? Well, let me inform you then. You make absolutely no sense. Then again, what else can one expect from one who apparently believes it is a reasonable line of thought to chuck in the towel on the game entirely because they aren't first up to bat? In other words..whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
You do realize you make absolutely no sense right? Oh, you don't realize that? Well, let me inform you then. You make absolutely no sense. Then again, what else can one expect from one who apparently believes it is a reasonable line of thought to chuck in the towel on the game entirely because they aren't first up to bat? In other words..whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

You're so cute, thinking that buying into a broken system will somehow fix it. Maybe mommy and daddy can explain it when you get to high school.
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Hey guys, guys, if we kill jews and promote Naziism did you know anti semitism will die out? Yeah, refusing to engage in such an activity only eggs them on! #logic.
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Ha ha. Keep trying. You are only proving my point.

Sorry, extreme examples usually get through to the uneducated. Let me try and speak slowly here...

How

Does

Voting

For

A

Rigged

System

Do

ANYTHING

To

Challenge

Or

Fix

The

System?
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Let me just say.....
I'm right because Hitler !

Hitler is a good example to break through thick skulls, unless you're dealing with an onslaught of ignorance. Another example could be "how does buying clothes from sweatshops help liberate underpaid child slaves?" Or how does going to the movies and buying dvds protest the movie industry? Or how is eating meat from a place that torments their animals a protest of animal cruelty?
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
Sorry, extreme examples usually get through to the uneducated. Let me try and speak slowly here...

How

Does

Voting

For

A

Rigged

System

Do

ANYTHING

To

Challenge

Or

Fix

The

System?
Speak as slow as you like. Doesn't make you right about anything. How does continuing to vote try to change anything? By continuing to vote for and get the word out about third party candidates one is trying to advocate for the opening up and the honest assessment of our current political system. The more people who vote third party the more people will see that these parties are gaining followers and may actually look into them for themselves. It's a slow movement, but certainly better than your option of doing absolutely nothing. What does doing nothing accomplish? Do you think you make a statement that is noticeable when you do nothing? That you make a difference in anything by throwing a temper tantrum and saying "I give up"? Just, exactly, what does that hope to change?

This is yet another example of why you make no sense. That and resorting to the absurd Hitler reference all the time. :rolleyes:
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Speak as slow as you like. Doesn't make you right about anything. How does continuing to vote try to change anything? By continuing to vote for and get the word out about third party candidates one is trying to advocate for the opening up and the honest assessment of our current political system. The more people who vote third party the more people will see that these parties are gaining followers and may actually look into them for themselves. It's a slow movement, but certainly better than your option of doing absolutely nothing. What does doing nothing accomplish? Do you think you make a statement that is noticeable when you do nothing? That you make a difference in anything by throwing a temper tantrum and saying "I give up"? Just, exactly, what does that hope to change?

This is yet another example of why you make no sense. That and resorting to the absurd Hitler reference all the time. :rolleyes:


So naive, you're part of the problem with this country. You keep following your lobotomized logic honey, just make sure your parents vote Bernie for you please. And definitely don't address my examples as you might learn something.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
So naive, you're part of the problem with this country. You keep following you're lobotomized logic honey, just make sure your parents vote Bernie for you please.
Yeah, cause throwing a childish temper tantrum and refusing to do anything is much better. :rolleyes:

Oh, and I wouldn't recommend Sanders to anyone. Goes against my conscious. I prefer to support someone more consistent with their stances.

Have a nice day though.
 
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