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"Oh my god, you're SO white."

Draka

Wonder Woman
So it's wrong to embrace another culture's fasion as your own? How is this any different than "dressing preppy" or being a mathlete? People embrace the things they like, or the things that make them comfortable, or the things they feel make a statement about themselves. Why should it annoy you when someone chooses a certain style?

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Oh. Unless you were talking about that it annoys you when people accuse other people of "acting white" or "acting black". Then my little lecture wasn't warranted. :)

Wasn't warranted. My beef is that people believe that certain styles or ways of speech are even associated with race. If a white person listens to hip hop and speaks with a lot of slang then they are called "acting black" when hip hop and slang are a not just "black" things. And if a black person dresses well and speaks properly then they are "acting white" when those things are not just "white" things. It's insulting to both races no matter which side you are on.
 

tomspug

Absorbant
Ok, I have heard this MANY, MANY times...sometimes directed at me. (Which I don't mind because I love that I'm white). But it's said as a joke or an insult.

HOW is this ok? I have long been fed up with this expression. What if I said, "God, you're SO black/hispanic/asian." My *** would be either beaten or called a racist.

How come every other group can get away with sneering, "Ugh, you're so white."

Even on the news tonight, the newsguy was like "...is the WHITEST sport *chuckle*." ?!?! And if someone dared to say on air, "...is the blackest sport *chuckle*.." what would happen to him?

This is ridiculous. What does everyone else think?
Eh, I don't really think it's that bad, unless you actually find it offensive, then maybe it is. Personally, I've never been much bothered by it because... let's face it... us white people tend to be more... uh... what's the word? Puritan.
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
Wasn't warranted. My beef is that people believe that certain styles or ways of speech are even associated with race. If a white person listens to hip hop and speaks with a lot of slang then they are called "acting black" when hip hop and slang are a not just "black" things. And if a black person dresses well and speaks properly then they are "acting white" when those things are not just "white" things. It's insulting to both races no matter which side you are on.
Agreed :)
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Ok, I have heard this MANY, MANY times...sometimes directed at me. (Which I don't mind because I love that I'm white). But it's said as a joke or an insult.

HOW is this ok? I have long been fed up with this expression. What if I said, "God, you're SO black/hispanic/asian." My *** would be either beaten or called a racist.

How come every other group can get away with sneering, "Ugh, you're so white."

Even on the news tonight, the newsguy was like "...is the WHITEST sport *chuckle*." ?!?! And if someone dared to say on air, "...is the blackest sport *chuckle*.." what would happen to him?

This is ridiculous. What does everyone else think?

Flip it around. If I felt someone said I was "so white" in a derogatory manner, then I would respond with something like: "What, you mean educated and employed?", or "What, you mean because I pay my bills?".

If you're willing to dish it out, then you've got to be willing to take it as well. And, just maybe, someone will get the point. At the very least, I get to be a sarcastic *******.
 

gnomon

Well-Known Member
Ok, I have heard this MANY, MANY times...sometimes directed at me. (Which I don't mind because I love that I'm white). But it's said as a joke or an insult.

HOW is this ok? I have long been fed up with this expression. What if I said, "God, you're SO black/hispanic/asian." My *** would be either beaten or called a racist.

How come every other group can get away with sneering, "Ugh, you're so white."

Even on the news tonight, the newsguy was like "...is the WHITEST sport *chuckle*." ?!?! And if someone dared to say on air, "...is the blackest sport *chuckle*.." what would happen to him?

This is ridiculous. What does everyone else think?

I don't let them get away with it. I call them bigots.

It's fun to watch them stammer and rationalize their way out of that. Of course, I must admit, I usually just let such statements wash over for being as useless as they are. Sometimes I just like to press the issue to watch people squirm over their prejudice.
 

Smoke

Done here.
That's one of things what ****** me off about our culture - the hypocrisy and double standards. For example, if someone says something like "honky" or "cracker", no one bats an eye, but if someone says something like "******" or "jigaboo" then it's a riot inducing outrage.
I don't mind if somebody calls me a hillbilly, because I'm proud of my hillbilly heritage. But in general, it's always disrespectful to call somebody "out of their name." I think the term "white trash" -- which I don't recall ever hearing a black person say -- is always offensive, for instance. Other terms might be affectionate or they might not, but it's best to know whom you're talking to, and to know them well enough to make sure they take it as it's meant. My students are always calling each other ghetto, and sometimes it's affectionate and light-hearted, and sometimes it's not.

If I call my dad a Kraut, he takes it as a compliment. I wouldn't use the term to a German I didn't know very well.
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
What about when people say.."Oh my God..thats so gay"..or "Oh my god you are so gay"?

There is acutally a public service announcement out about that.

Love

Dallas
 

Smoke

Done here.
And if a black person dresses well and speaks properly then they are "acting white" when those things are not just "white" things. It's insulting to both races no matter which side you are on.
One of my former co-workers always got a lot of comments about "acting white" or "talking white." Some people were actually offended by her way of talking, as if she had renounced being black. Most were just confused.

A client would come into the shop, and my co-worker would say, "Oh, yes, I spoke to you on the phone," and the client would shake her head.

"Oh, that wasn't me. I spoke to a white girl."

"Did she talk like me?"

"Um .... "
 

Smoke

Done here.
What about when people say.."Oh my God..thats so gay"..or "Oh my god you are so gay"?
I told one of my students the other day, "If you think something's stupid, you need to use another word to describe it. I don't care for that."

She apologized profusely. I'm never offended the first time I hear somebody say it, but I do call them on it, and the second time is a different matter.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Flip it around. If I felt someone said I was "so white" in a derogatory manner, then I would respond with something like: "What, you mean educated and employed?", or "What, you mean because I pay my bills?".

If you're willing to dish it out, then you've got to be willing to take it as well. And, just maybe, someone will get the point. At the very least, I get to be a sarcastic *******.
Back in the day, "that's very white of you" was used as a way of saying "that's very decent of you." You see it sometimes in old movies.
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
Back in the day, "that's very white of you" was used as a way of saying "that's very decent of you." You see it sometimes in old movies.

The version I heard was thats "mighty white" of you.But it was used to be sarcastic.

example..if you stole money from your friend..and they said.."but I used part of it to buy you a birthday present" you would say..Gosh that was mighty white of you.

Love

Dallas
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
One of my former co-workers always got a lot of comments about "acting white" or "talking white." Some people were actually offended by her way of talking, as if she had renounced being black. Most were just confused.

A client would come into the shop, and my co-worker would say, "Oh, yes, I spoke to you on the phone," and the client would shake her head.

"Oh, that wasn't me. I spoke to a white girl."

"Did she talk like me?"

"Um .... "

See now, if I were her I'd be offended. And really, I think the offense is even greater when it comes from another black person. As if they think so lowly of their own race that to speak proper english and behave and dress respectfully are not "black" things to do.
 

stacey bo bacey

oh no you di'int
Are you serious? Who the hell actually says **** like that?

:yes: Apparently not a lot of people where you guys live. I hear this almost every day. Then again, it might also have to do with age.

You should probably confront them about that. What self respecting person would say **** like that about their own race? Next time they say something like that, just say "damn strait". Those two-faced hypocrites would cry a river if they heard someone say "you're so black" to someone who used a double negative.

I'm 21 so a lot of my friends are still 18, 19, 20...some of my co-workers are 17. So I hear it from them. I think they think it's not cool to be white or something stupid like that. :rolleyes:

One day I had the radio on and was listening to rock music instead of the usually played R&B variety. A young lady I worked with walked in and asked "who turned on this white boy music?" I was taken aback. (I am really only 1/2 white, I am 1/2 Native American but I am not very dark). I thought the statement was kind of rude, but I just laughed it off. Sometimes I wonder if I should have said something (the young lady was white who said it). ;)

THAT makes me angry. When I lived in Colorado, I got teased for listening to "white" music. Which I didn't mind at all because I have awesome taste in music. THEIR music, whatever it was, sounded all the same.....song after song..***** this, ****** that, slap a ho, money, money, money...:D

That's one of things what ****** me off about our culture - the hypocrisy and double standards. For example, if someone says something like "honky" or "cracker", no one bats an eye, but if someone says something like "******" or "jigaboo" then it's a riot inducing outrage.

Yup, I know. It's ridiculous.

If I have to be honest....?


..Get over it! :slap:

Question. If this were a thread made by a black, asian, middle eastern or hispanic person complaining about hearing excessive derogatory terms about THEIR race, would you tell them to get over it? I am NOT personally responsible for this "white power" most of you seem to be using as an excuse for making the use of derogatory terms toward white people ok. It's not ok. :no: You're drawing a line here, making racism towards white people ok and racism toward any other group NOT ok...because of what? Some elitism that most individual white people don't even feel that they have? I certainly don't feel that way. Like Hannah said, either all racism needs to be allowed or none of it.

So, that's cool. I'll get over it. But if I need to get over it, so do those coloreds, jungle bunnies, chinks, japs, kikes and spics.

Flip it around. If I felt someone said I was "so white" in a derogatory manner, then I would respond with something like: "What, you mean educated and employed?", or "What, you mean because I pay my bills?".

If you're willing to dish it out, then you've got to be willing to take it as well. And, just maybe, someone will get the point. At the very least, I get to be a sarcastic *******.

Hahaha.

One of my former co-workers always got a lot of comments about "acting white" or "talking white." Some people were actually offended by her way of talking, as if she had renounced being black. Most were just confused.

A client would come into the shop, and my co-worker would say, "Oh, yes, I spoke to you on the phone," and the client would shake her head.

"Oh, that wasn't me. I spoke to a white girl."

"Did she talk like me?"

"Um .... "

I really don't like it when black people are persecuted by their own race for speaking well, dressing well, etc. Like you said, like she had "renounced being black." :rolleyes:
 
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Stellify

StarChild
Some psychologists did a study fairly recently and it basically showed that more people are prejudiced against whites than any other race (although not solely in negative ways). That's not to say, of course, that other races and cultures don't get their fair share of bull****. I thought it was interesting.

Stacey, I know exactly what you mean. I went from a tiny private school where no one ever even whispered a single racist comment (even though 90% of the students were upper-middle class whites) in the entire nine years I attended, to a big public school where sometimes I was only one of like 4 or 5 white kids in the class...And I heard so many racist remarks in the public school it broke my heart (not just against whites, but a great majority of the time). I really learned to despise people in that school :shrug:

I think it's because whites are an easy target to blame the problems of all the minorities on... for years it's been caucasians who held the majority, the positions of power, etc....it makes for an easy target. Hopefully that will change. But I'm afraid that people are way too fond of putting blame on others :(
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
I have never been offended by the term "you're so white". I've used it and had it said about me. I agree, though, that it's another example of the double standard of racism (joking or otherwise) being OK as long as it's against the majority group, whites, but it's outrageous and horrible if against any minority group.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
I don't think this is actually the case, myself. No one will say anything bad in public about most dead people, for example.

Really? I think the rule is that you have to wait a certain amount of time. I constantly hear people make fun of dead people in public.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
:yes: Apparently not a lot of people where you guys live. I hear this almost every day. Then again, it might also have to do with age.

I'm 21 so a lot of my friends are still 18, 19, 20...some of my co-workers are 17. So I hear it from them. I think they think it's not cool to be white or something stupid like that. :rolleyes:

THAT makes me angry. When I lived in Colorado, I got teased for listening to "white" music. Which I didn't mind at all because I have awesome taste in music. THEIR music, whatever it was, sounded all the same.....song after song..***** this, ****** that, slap a ho, money, money, money...:D

Ah, so it's just a bunch of teeny boppers who've bought into the extremely commercialized and shallow MTV hip hop culture and developed a sense of self hatred at the expense of taste and tact.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
And I heard so many racist remarks in the public school it broke my heart (not just against whites, but a great majority of the time). I really learned to despise people in that school

Yeah, people who demand respect and tolerance from others and yet are disrespectful and intolerant themselves don't deserve it.
I also find the cultural notion that whites should feel ashamed and guilty for some reason and that they somehow "deserve" to be the target of bigotry to be quite pathetic. I also find it pathetic how people actually try to defend certain kinds of racism as "understandable" or 'acceptable". Either racism is wrong or it's not. You can't really have it both ways unless you don't mind being a blatant, two-faced hypocrite.
 
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