Oklahoma Republican Doesn't Like That You Can't Hit Kids ...Even Those with Impairments

[Kenny]

Why shouldn't teachers be able to correct students? They can do that. I fully support it. I am, however, entirely against parents amd teachers beating kids.
Spanking is not interchangable with discipline or correcting. I fact, I learned with my nieces and nephews it's rather useless, especially with a family stuffed full of stubborn bullheads.

If you noted correctly, you would note that I am for “correcting”. If they cuss out the teacher, send them home. You could even add a “0” for the day.

How would you correct the person?

 

[Kenny]

What if there would be nobody at home (eg they are at work) ?

Then you call the mom/dad/guardian and say “pick up your child” the same way you would do if they were sick.

And in today's American society maybe. Do you have enough police to do this? But let's ask @Revoltingest what he thinks of that idea.

Hey, if we can fund:

$283,500 on Department of Defense bird-watching
$48,500 to write about Russian smokers
$406,419 to look at a “chicken and egg” problem
$3.1 billion on vacation for federal employees placed on administrative leave
$5,000 for a documentary film about Madison County, North Carolina’s best fiddler
Nearly $150,000 to understand why politics stress us out
$65,473 to figure out what bugs do near a lightbulb
Making Americans do their dishes twice
$35,000 for solar-powered beer

I’m sure they can find money to protect our children.

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[Kenny]

The PDF addressed what, exactly?



It would have been nice if you'd addressed anything I said at all in my post.

I have in so many posts that I figured I didn’t need to do it again.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Now that someone asked me, I’m of the view that correction should be at home.

That being said, if a child cusses out the teacher, they should be sent home. If they hit another child, they should be sent home. And in today’s society, there should be a cop at every school to take them to the principal’s office until they get picked up to go home.

And if they become violent, they should be expelled.

Why is a cop necessary?

 

[SkepticThinker]

I have in so many posts that I figured I didn’t need to do it again.

What are you claiming the PDF addressed and why is it so difficult to get a straight and direct answer from you about anything?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Now that someone asked me, I’m of the view that correction should be at home.

That being said, if a child cusses out the teacher, they should be sent home. If they hit another child, they should be sent home. And in today’s society, there should be a cop at every school to take them to the principal’s office until they get picked up to go home.

And if they become violent, they should be expelled.

So you disagree with the speaker in the OP?

He was speaking against a change to the laws around corporal punishment in public schools that would prohibit corporal punishment of "seriously disabled" children in public schools.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

To those who think the spare the rod doesn't mean beating your kids but being gentle like a shepherd.
Proverbs 23:13Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

Yes, the Bible says to beat your kids. Not nudge them along . Not "oh its love so it's not beating them," yes it is literal instruction to beat your kid with a weapon.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

How would you correct the person?

I tend to let themselves dig themselves into a hole and entangle themselves in a web of their own creation. I also realize peer pressure isn't inherently a bad thing and it's possible to "soft encourage" others to take a more proactive approach in encouraging someone to knock off the crap.
Sending them home for the day? Give them what they want? Not happening on my watch. I am, however, very big into snuffing flames and not letting my position be usurped by a misbehaving kid. Giving them a calm response that doesn't give them or affirm at all what they want is often enough to end it there once they realize they are not in control and will not be manipulating the situation.

 

[Kenny]

Why is a cop necessary?

Because violence is on the increase. At least that is my perception and what teachers have told me

 

[Pogo]

OK… nobody has asked me about the public school spanking.

What’s your question?

Did you read the OP?
And yes lots of people including myself have asked you about your position on the OP which was about corporal punishment in schools with a video of a legislator even advocating it for special needs students.

?????

 

[Kenny]

What are you claiming the PDF addressed and why is it so difficult to get a straight and direct answer from you about anything?

Like I said… I have made direct answers multiple times and get tired repeating myself like what I am about to type:

PDF:
1) Studies don’t separate actual abuse
2) Studies don’t address other factors that contribute to psychological problems

 

[Kenny]

Did you read the OP?
And yes lots of people including myself have asked you about your position on the OP which was about corporal punishment in schools with a video of a legislator even advocating it for special needs students.

?????

Perhaps I misunderstood your question.

I listened to the video way later than my original post.

 

[Kenny]

I tend to let themselves dig themselves into a hole and entangle themselves in a web of their own creation. I also realize peer pressure isn't inherently a bad thing and it's possible to "soft encourage" others to take a more proactive approach in encouraging someone to knock off the crap.
Sending them home for the day? Give them what they want? Not happening on my watch. I am, however, very big into snuffing flames and not letting my position be usurped by a misbehaving kid. Giving them a calm response that doesn't give them or affirm at all what they want is often enough to end it there once they realize they are not in control and will not be manipulating the situation.

Are you talking about daycare age?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Are you talking about daycare age?

All ages. Of course specifics change depending on age group, but people are people. Some of us more different than others, but at the end of the day we're all homo sapiens, we are all animals.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Like I said… I have made direct answers multiple times and get tired repeating myself like what I am about to type:

PDF:
1) Studies don’t separate actual abuse

Which means, what, exactly?

2) Studies don’t address other factors that contribute to psychological problems

Such as?

 

[Kenny]

All ages. Of course specifics change depending on age group, but people are people. Some of us more different than others, but at the end of the day we're all homo sapiens, we are all animals.

What would you do if they cussed you out and threatened you?

 

[Pogo]

What would you do if they cussed you out and threatened you?

Maybe think sticks and stones ...
What I wouldn't do is react in any way to set myself up for an assault charge.
What would you do?

 

[Kenny]

Maybe think sticks and stones ...

I’m fine with that...

What I wouldn't do is react in any way to set myself up for an assault charge.

I agree with that - unless he/she attacked me and then I would defend myself

What would you do?

Send them to the principal and give him/her a zero for the day

 

[Pogo]

I’m fine with that...



I agree with that - unless he/she attacked me and then I would defend myself


Send them to the principal and give him/her a zero for the day

Nice sidestep if that major of a reaction was not overkill already, but in light of the OP now that you know what it is, why not spank them?

 

[Secret Chief]

Then you call the mom/dad/guardian and say “pick up your child” the same way you would do if they were sick.

A child has sworn at school and you think that nurses, doctors, teachers, care workers, pilots, office managers, retail staff, sales reps etc etc etc etc etc can just leave work and come home for that reason? Exactly what planet is it that you live on?