LOL… your tirggered by the response
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Oklahoma Republican Doesn't Like That You Can't Hit Kids ...Even Those with Impairments
- Thread starter Wandering Monk
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Violence can, indeed, stop unwanted behavior -- for as long as the threat is perceived to exist, but it doesn't alter the perpetrators' minds or level of moral development.
If you want to teach proper behavior, instill social values, or increase someone's level of moral development, you have to teach the reasons the unwanted behavior is harmful. You have to instill an internalized antipathy to harmful behavior, not just a fear of retaliation.
Of course, if the adult in the room is socially retarded himself, the idea of self-control without fear of consequences is probably foreign to him. He'd hit.
A vicious dog may be cowed, by a threat -- for a time -- but it remains a vicious dog.
If you want to teach proper behavior, instill social values, or increase someone's level of moral development, you have to teach the reasons the unwanted behavior is harmful. You have to instill an internalized antipathy to harmful behavior, not just a fear of retaliation.
Of course, if the adult in the room is socially retarded himself, the idea of self-control without fear of consequences is probably foreign to him. He'd hit.
A vicious dog may be cowed, by a threat -- for a time -- but it remains a vicious dog.
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Pogo
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Yes rational people get triggered by irrational behavior, it is not useful in solving problems.
You get triggered by your children being unreasonable, don't you.
Pogo
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Unless you get out of the violence circle and retrain it.
Luckily, the bill that this guy was arguing against - which prohibits corporal punishment against kids with "severe" disabilities - seems to have passed:
AFAICT from some Googling, a teacher spanking, slapping, or "switching" a child is specifically exempt from the definitions of child abuse-related crimes under Oklahoma criminal law. There's nothing in that statute that I can see that requires parental permission.
Apart from that, I expect policies will vary from school board to school board.
Spanks them too
Wonder what would happen if the kid attacked back, after the fact of course. Is it self defense in the eyes of the Law?
Obviously not. Hypocrisy abounds.
trigger
It was the original post that did that
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You're sounding a bit like a child with these responses.
Did Daddy not spank you enough?
Pain punishment for correction seems to be the Christian way.
However I don't even agree with hitting kids who aren't impaired. And I did in the past spank my kids. It was the culture I was brought up in.
I found better ways to deal out discipline. I think it is a lack of intellectual development to fall back on the use of pain for discipline. I'd have to say I wouldn't want this person representing me. However, it seems enough do that here we are.
All in context, my friend
Only when I did something that merited it.
Alien826
No religious beliefs
Save a horse ride a Cowboy
Pogo
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Which is why your extreme hypothetical context is so problematic.
Pogo
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So you are in favor of people who are not the child's parents making this decision for you?Only when I did something that merited it.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I will take that as an admission that you could not support your claims.