Oklahoma Republican Doesn't Like That You Can't Hit Kids ...Even Those with Impairments

[Twilight Hue]

Is there empirical evidence that hitting
children is better than alternatives?

I dunno. It would require a comparison of how childern were in the past vs childern today.

 

[Kenny]

I wonder when the faithful arrive at the Pearly Gates,
which faction will gain admittance, & which will escalate
down to the Lake of Fire.....the beaters or the rod sparers?
Only then will they know who "correctly" interpreted the Bible.
(IMO)

What scripture do you have to support this warped thinking?

 

[Kenny]

As I mentioned previously, pull that stunt in the UK in public, and you'd get "corrected."

And, thus, you have today’s youth’s problems and tomorrow rulers and your judges… God help us.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

but it can also be useful to children with compulsive and attention deficit disorders. This can be much healthier and safer than drugs.

No. It's actually way worse for kids with such things.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

And, thus, you have today’s youth’s problems and tomorrow rulers and your judges… God help us.

What problems? People in the UK tend to be better off than us.

 

[Secret Chief]

And, thus, you have today’s youth’s problems and tomorrow rulers and your judges… God help us.

Keep your god over there thanks. It's 2024 over here and adults striking children is not viewed kindly.
And rulers? That's laughable coming from the country that produced Trump; is he a product of your religious "corrections" ?

 

[Kenny]

Keep your god over there thanks. It's 2024 over here and adults striking children is not viewed kindly.
And rulers? That's laughable coming from the country that produced Trump; is he a product of your religious "corrections" ?

Another Trump-derangement syndrome. Common, tell us how your really feel.

 

[Secret Chief]

Spanking is not always a form of child abuse. That claim comes from a one size fits all mentality. Spanking can be taken too far, but it can also be useful to children with compulsive and attention deficit disorders. This can be much healthier and safer than drugs.

A quick open hand slap to the leg, can occur as fast the brief attention span of the most deficit children. They can process this, since it is within their attention range. It does not have to break bones, but just enough pain to change the focus, at the violation. Cause, effect, cause.

A long winded time out; 1 hour, for a child that can only focus for 2 seconds, will never work. This is how you train little monsters. Their mind will wonder after a minute, and then forget the original crime. They may learn to accept the time out, as justification to be mean in the future. To much time to reverse engineer. A controlled spanking would make the original violation; cause and effect, conscious. Then it is done. They can go back to play, learning to censor this exact behavior, with possible future quick lessons; pending.

The problem is many parents have monster kids they cannot control. Maybe the parents need to be spanked for their child's bad behavior. I do not mean in an abusive way. But this way we can avoid all concerns of child abuse and still get the job done. This is a liberal problem now covered up with drugs. Out of sight out of mind. Spanking parents would make it come back to mind for real change.

What gave spanking a bad name, was caused by adults taking out their adult frustrations on children. The spanking became more of an adult release of pressure and stress, and less about constructive attention and impulse control and direction for children. A teacher with a class full of monsters could get angry on some days, and over spank; enough for all, targeted at one. This is where the teacher would be better off going to the parents house and see if they can benefit by a spanking; spank the monster creator. Then it is not child abuse.

I work with children, sorry, little monsters, who have ADD and ADHD. Thankfully somebody with your level of ignorance wouldn't be allowed within a mile of the school.

 

[Kenny]

This sounds like a claim that beating children
isn't yielding the results you want.

LOL…keep dreaming my friend… keep dreaming.

 

[Secret Chief]

Another Trump-derangement syndrome. Common, tell us how your really feel.

You're the one crowing about the joys of spanking and indicating that it produces good leaders. You've got bible-derangement syndrome.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

I grew up in a small town in Oklahoma and went to a school where paddling kids was like some kind of weird perverted religious sacrament. When I had kids of my own I sent them to a school that didn't use physical violence as a means of discipline. Both my kids grew up to be well adjusted and productive individuals.

My husband and I raised seven children without resorting to hitting them as a form of discipline to correct their behavior. All of them grew up to be well-adjusted and productive individuals. We were both Christians when they were growing up, and we faced backlash from other Christian parents we knew and some we didn't know for not spanking our children. We don't believe that children must be hit and physically hurt in order to correct their behavior.

 

[Secret Chief]

we faced backlash from other Christian parents we knew and some we didn't know for not spanking our children

I'm amazed. I didn't associate it with Christianity, just some ignorant attitude seemingly from a Charles Dickens novel.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

This sounds more like Trump derangement syndrome.

LOL… only in your imagination. I guess atheists do it just because you want to?

Another Trump-derangement syndrome. Common, tell us how your really feel.

LOL…keep dreaming my friend… keep dreaming.

I hope you treat the people in your congregation better than you treat the people you disagree with and oppose in this thread.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

I'm amazed. I didn't associate it with Christianity, just some ignorant attitude seemingly from a Charles Dickens novel.

My husband and I were berated by other Christians for "sparing the rod" and told that our children would be uncontrollable and rebellious if we didn't discipline them as the Bible instructed. However, we never laid a hand on any of our children in order to discipline them and correct their behavior. As it turns out, we demonstrated in our own lives that the "spare the rod, spoil the child" scripture advocating inflicting physical pain on children isn't justified.

 

[metis]

Outright physical abuse or a simple swat on the fanny?

My wife & I only used the latter.

 

[metis]

We were at my in-laws when our oldest daughter was between near 2, and she was given a warning but still misbehaved, so I gave her a swat on her diapered butt, she ran crying around the table, ran back to me, jumped up into my lap, I consoled her, and she stopped crying. My mother-in-law look perplexed, so my wife explained that the message being sent was that she misbehaved, needed to be punished, but that I still loved her.

We very rarely even had to do this, btw.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

You're the one crowing about the joys of spanking and indicating that it produces good leaders.

I'm sure you noticed that the person you quoted resorted to rude accusations instead of addressing Christians supporting an immoral leader like Trump.

 

[Wandering Monk]

This episode gives a whole new meaning to the phrase 'Bible. Belt.'

 

[Secret Chief]

I'm sure you noticed that the person you quoted resorted to rude accusations instead of addressing Christians supporting an immoral leader like Trump.

Yes, but if I push him too hard, he might teach me good behaviour by hitting me.

 

[Secret Chief]

This episode give a whole new meaning to the phrase 'Bible. Belt.'

It's a Revelation to me.