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It's always a threat from you, Thief, which I've pointed out many times.
Are you still on your deludes shtick that I'm an atheist? Who needs to try harder again?
this is in response to nothing I said, who are you speaking to?
You threaten using God, in many posts. I've pointed it out. Stop pretending to be profound then, and explain what you really mean. You fear to, because I accurately portray what you are actually saying. What then, what is 'the result' you allude to multiple times and never name? Squirm your way out of it if you are able.
What banner? My sig? It is a quote from a British navy chanty about Admiral Benbow's death.
I can tell you do not understand the word or at least not the way that I do, Which does not mean you are wrong, What am I saying , of course you are. Jesus was human, why would you think he was not? And what do you think hell is any way? Do you truly believe it is a place you go to and live in pain the rest of your life. Come on , Read the book, you seem smart enough to be able to tell that is not what the bible says. Hell is the grave, nothing more nothing less. Do you really think that God needs to trick anyone into anything? Like I said , blaming someone else for you own short comings doesn't help anyone. But you believe your way. I am sure it works for you. Good luck with that.But when you are ready to learn, then open up the book and read without the bias opinion that you and I were both raised with. Because the way I was raised about God was a fairy tale also. He is real. Just not the way a lot of people believe him to be.
slavery, human sacrifices, is that not a part of the religion that is known as Norse heathen? And you question God? How ironic.
it seems you can't get your stories straight, though, at least compared to the others responding, so when you do, I can respond more definitively. Until then, I'll chuckle at the scolding. I've more than read the book, I lived it, and I am where I am today thanks to it. None of my shortcomings has been mentioned; i'm talking about God's shortcomings.
Two things though, before I sleep,
Explain the tree of life.
I don't know , you don't know, no body knows. All of the things people come up with are just a guess at what happened. So let me make a guess , Garden, plants, trees, OK, how is this? Plants and fruit trees grow in gardens, how is that? Here is another guess. Maybe the tree of life doesn't mean anything other than it was there because that is where it grows. Maybe Eden was not the intended place for man kind to learn what he needs to learn before he can have a true relationship with God. . If God is all powerful , all knowing, then one must contend that in creating man and placing him in an environment where falling was the likely outcome, then obviously God would have had to have mans fall as a part of His plan. But then again , that is only a guess.
Im not scared by your threats.
And the answer is still 'aye'.
It is more courageous to oppose a tyrant and die a hero, than to agree to live in slavery forever.
But, again, most folks prefer to be slaves.
Because the Biblical account does not present a punishment of us for the acts of another.
Sometimes decisions get made for you, especially by your parents/progenitors...
Seeing as I understand it that Original sin is a separation from God...
A simplistic statement from my point of view...
Well, we still see the problem that the doctrine itself still is not fixed in the minds of those who must follow it; your ideas differ from the other posters responding, so, how am I supposed to make decisions and thence statements, on a subject that is essentially a wisp of smoke?Explain the tree of life.
As for hell makes no difference if I am right or someone else is right. What it says in the bible is that hell = grave. That is not me saying it , that is the Bible . But let me make another guess about hell. This is the horror of hell-based Christianity: it turns God, Jesus and Christian mothers into monsters willing to play eternal roulette with the souls of innocent children. Could good mothers live happily in heaven with Jesus, knowing their children were suffering forever because Jesus refused to save them, when he was able to save the thief on the cross with a nod of his head? Please keep in mind that I am not calling Jesus a petty egomaniac. It's the "Bible believing" fundamentalists who turned Jesus into a petty monster with their bizarre theology, not me. I'm a recovering fundamentalist who no longer blasphemes the name of Jesus by accusing him of saving Christians by "grace" while condemning the saints of other religions and non-religions to an "eternal hell." As I have posted previously, the Hebrew word Sheol clearly means "the grave" or "the abode of all the dead, good and bad," not "hell." The Hebrew language doesn't have a word that means "hell" (a startling omission if there really is a "hell" and an all-knowing God spoke to the men who gave us the Bible). So you tell me what I should believe, The Bible or what another man believes it to say. And if you do indeed have knowledge and understanding beyond the bias teachings that most of us had , I would love the opportunity to learn what you believe you could teach me, I am always looking for new opinions to consider. As we both know that is what they are ,OPINIONS. Most opinions are just that , however I have come upon some opinions that was well thought out. Not often , but once in awhile. I would enjoy hearing some of yours. That is if you have more than just questions.
A pleasure, please do!
Adam and Eve were incapable of making an informed decision.