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Orphanage or gay parents

Me Myself

Back to my username
The difference is an orphanage is a facility the holds a large number of children that are cared for by staff members. The foster cares system places children in volunteer homes so that they are cared for by someone filling the role of a parent. Does that help?

Yes and no.

theorically, the foster cares would need to also include "orphanages" inside their walls, because what do they do with the children that they can´t find parents for? they must be placed somewhere in within the Foster care or am I wrong? and someone has to take care of them, right?

Maybe they are left in the streeets, I wouldn´t know, but would I be wrong to doubt that´s what they do? :shrug:
 

Trey of Diamonds

Well-Known Member
Yes and no.

theorically, the foster cares would need to also include "orphanages" inside their walls, because what do they do with the children that they can´t find parents for? they must be placed somewhere in within the Foster care or am I wrong? and someone has to take care of them, right?

Maybe they are left in the streeets, I wouldn´t know, but would I be wrong to doubt that´s what they do? :shrug:

No, the foster care system is organised to the point where they are ready for children immediately. Certian foster homes are specifically for kids in transition to a more permanent home. And there are some group homes for overflow as well but they are also managed by a couple who fill the role of a parent. The entire system was created in order to place children in an environment that was family oriented.
 

nnmartin

Well-Known Member
I would say that 2 women bringing up a child to be better than a foster home, but not 2 men.

This is because women have natural maternal instincts.

So in this case, I think lesbians could be allowed to adopt (in theory only of course) but gay men not.

that sounds fair to me.

agree?
 

McBell

Unbound
I would say that 2 women bringing up a child to be better than a foster home, but not 2 men.

This is because women have natural maternal instincts.

So in this case, I think lesbians could be allowed to adopt (in theory only of course) but gay men not.

that sounds fair to me.

agree?
Nope.
Cause this is nothing more than you trying to appease the crowd.

It has nothing at all to do with truth or facts.
 

nnmartin

Well-Known Member
appease what crowd - do you mean on the forum or out in the wider world?

do you not think that womens' natural child-rearing instincts are more powerful than that of the male?
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I don't believe that men are inherently and as a group unable to raise children well. My father and my husband are examples of two men who would do a fine job of raising kids even if there was no mother in the picture.
 

connermt

Well-Known Member
There is a legitimate reason to put "gay" in there when you are specifically asking those against same sex couples adopting.

Why ask then?
Doesn't seem like it would be a legit question.

Besides, simply being gay doesn't make you a good or bad parent.
 
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connermt

Well-Known Member
I would say that 2 women bringing up a child to be better than a foster home, but not 2 men.

This is because women have natural maternal instincts.

So in this case, I think lesbians could be allowed to adopt (in theory only of course) but gay men not.

that sounds fair to me.

agree?

So you'd let Casey Anthony adopt is she were in a gay relationship?
Afterall, she's a female so, by your theory, she has mothering instincts....
 

dyanaprajna2011

Dharmapala
Gay parents are much better. The orphanages, or group homes as they're now called, are horrendous, and there's too many foster parents who are just after the money, and who abuse the children under their care.
 

McBell

Unbound
Why ask then?
Because there are groups against gay couples adopting for no other reason than because they are gay.

Doesn't seem like it would be a legit question.
Why not?
The question would not even be asked if there were no groups preventing gays from adopting.

Besides, simply being gay doesn't make you a good or bad parent.
tell that to the groups preventing gays from adopting.
 

nnmartin

Well-Known Member
of course, if a young boy were to be brought up by two very gay male parents then he would be more likely to turn out this way himself.

that is not a good or fair thing for the child.
 

Me Myself

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of course, if a young boy were to be brought up by two very gay male parents then he would be more likely to turn out this way himself.

that is not a good or fair thing for the child.

Nope, being loved by the government in your most vital years is much prefered.
 

Me Myself

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appease what crowd - do you mean on the forum or out in the wider world?

do you not think that womens' natural child-rearing instincts are more powerful than that of the male?

Depends on which male and which female.

I know women who have no mother instinct in their whole bone structure (and self admitted) while a very dear friend of mine (actually bisexual) is every bit the parenting type, and with enough emotional maturity and affection to be a """mother""" (but quite honestly and without this""", a PARENT )
 

dyanaprajna2011

Dharmapala
of course, if a young boy were to be brought up by two very gay male parents then he would be more likely to turn out this way himself.

that is not a good or fair thing for the child.

The only way this would be true is if being gay wasn't something someone was born with. Since the gay community, and those who support them, believe that a person is gay, is so from birth, then this wouldn't have an affect on him. If a child is born straight, and raised by gay parents, he's still going to be straight. He might experiment, but he'll ultimately realize that he's not gay. And if he is gay, then he should be raised by gay parents all the more, as it will be less damaging to his psyche, and they can help him out more.
 

McBell

Unbound
of course, if a young boy were to be brought up by two very gay male parents then he would be more likely to turn out this way himself.

that is not a good or fair thing for the child.
Says you.
But then you have already shown how unreliable your information is.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
personally i would rather live in an orphanage. i could not cope with the idea of living with a homosexual couple. although i don't care what people think, i would have trouble being in such a situation.
 

Me Myself

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personally i would rather live in an orphanage. i could not cope with the idea of living with a homosexual couple. although i don't care what people think, i would have trouble being in such a situation.

A lot of children would appreciate the choice I am sure.
 
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