Palestinians under attack

[Curious_Cat]

They won't...because the pride of Jews is unlimited. And Judaism is all based upon the superiority of this nation over the others

:yes:

 

[Curious_Cat]

To where would they leave, anyway

Where did they immigrate from? Go back to the countries they were residing in before they started handing passports to every jew who decided to return to Israel.

Come to Australia, we have plenty of room, and could use some Jewish capital

 

[Estro Felino]

Same logic goes for you, "Palestinians" may have owned the land but Israel owns it now. Thats a fact. Israel exists. Jews live there. 5-6 million Jews. Thats not a small number. A Palestinian cant say that because his great great grandfather owned some land, which he later sold to Jewish immigrants, he rightfully owns it. It doesnt work like that.

Dear Friend, you are confusing Law and Economics with Politics. You are making a mixture of two distinct things. The Jews are juridically owners of the lands they bought. By creating that state, they used their money to improve agriculture and created infrastructures.
Well, but Politics is another thing. I have the right to inhabit a state, but I don't have the right to impose the creation of a "theocracy" to Muslims, who profess another religion.
I am just suggesting that the state of Israel has created a religious chaos in that land. But now, that the Jews are the majority of Israel, the damage has already been done, and Palestinians and Israelis should live together pacifically in Israel.

But Israelis are so greedy. They are not satisfied with their territories, so they want to prevent the Palestinians to create a state in their territories: that is, the new Palestinian Republic.
The new Palestinian Republic is supposed to be made up of Gaza strip and all Cisjordan, and the two parts linked with each other through a neutral passage.

But neither Israel nor US will acknowledge the lawfulness of the Palestinian Republic. Why? Because Israelis are greedy and money-hunger and want all the lands for themselves.

 

[Flankerl]

This is really ridiculous. The Jews decided to abandon that land 2000 years ago. Yes, I admit this was provoked after that Jerusalem was taken and destroyed, (AD 70)

Yep thats how it was.

This thread is simply amazing.

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Where did they immigrate from? Go back to the countries they were residing in before they started handing passports to every jew who decided to return to Israel.

Yes lets ignore all the Jews who had nothing to do with Zionism but were driven out of their homes by the Arab mob because thousands of kilometers away some Jews proclaimed their own country.

Iam pretty sure they are thrilled to return to the crazy people.


Just like the husband of my cousin, he probably cant wait to return to Ethiopia and get killed.

Will you be serious for once when you speak?

Yeah yeah i know, Iran heaven on earth.

 

[Estro Felino]

Yes lets ignore all the Jews who had nothing to do with Zionism but were driven out of their homes by the Arab mob because thousands of kilometers away some Jews proclaimed their own country.
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"Their own" country? well...it's not that easy to erase more than 1200 years of Islamic history in Palestine, just like that.

 

[Flankerl]

"Their own" country? well...it's not that easy to erase more than 1200 years of Islamic history in Palestine, just like that.

And exactly where are Israelis erasing Islamic history? Be having their own country? Thats not how erasing history works.



Also you still havent elaborated on how Jews think they are superior to everyone else.

 

[Estro Felino]

A Be having their own country? Thats not how erasing history works.

Again? "Their own" country? You think it's theirs because so says the Bible, right?
It's impossible to make a reasonable speech here when religion is mixed up with Politics. Politics is supposed to be laic, isn't it?

By the way... Is Israel Government going to recognize the lawfulness of Palestinian Republic in Cisjordan?

 

[Flankerl]

Again? "Their own" country? You think it's theirs because so says the Bible, right?

Actually no.

It's impossible to make a reasonable speech here when religion is mixed up with Politics. Politics is supposed to be laic, isn't it?

Says the one who believes that Jews just left their own country for ***** and giggles.

By the way... Is Israel Government going to recognize the lawfulness of Palestinian Republic in Cisjordan?

Well there is no Palestinian Republic to recognize. How about after a peace treaty?



By the way you still havent elaborated on how Jews think they are superior to everyone else.

 

[Estro Felino]

Well there is no Palestinian Republic to recognize. How about after a peace treaty?

Palestinians have the right to constitute their own state in Cisjordan. What makes you think they don't have this right?

By the way you still haven't elaborated on how Jews think they are superior to everyone else.

I generalized, I ask for forgiveness. By the way there are lots of elements which induced me to think that:
- Judaism is not an universal religion. It is very very difficult to become Jewish
- The Bible says they are the chosen people

 

[Bunyip]

Actually no.




Says the one who believes that Jews just left their own country for ***** and giggles.




Well there is no Palestinian Republic to recognize. How about after a peace treaty?



By the way you still havent elaborated on how Jews think they are superior to everyone else.

The establishment of a Palestinian state was part of the agreement made that led to the establishment of Israel, it was guaranteed in the Balfour declaration.

 

[Bunyip]

Where did they immigrate from? Go back to the countries they were residing in before they started handing passports to every jew who decided to return to Israel.

Come to Australia, we have plenty of room, and could use some Jewish capital

Not sure if you are aware of it, but we have the third largest Jewish community on earth in Aus and there were originally several alternatives given as the site of the Jewish homeland - and Australia was one of the options considered.

I cannot help but wonder how different things would be if Israel had been located in Australia, the seemingly perpetual tension and conflict in the Middle East could have been avoided.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Not sure if you are aware of it, but we have the third largest Jewish community on earth in Aus and there were originally several alternatives given as the site of the Jewish homeland - and Australia was one of the options considered.

I cannot help but wonder how different things would be if Israel had been located in Australia, the seemingly perpetual tension and conflict in the Middle East could have been avoided.

They can all move to NYC. So many of them live there as it is and it's not like anyone will notice. Lol.

 

[Bunyip]

They can all move to NYC. So many of them live there as it is and it's not like anyone will notice. Lol.

Sure, there is a huge Jewish population in NYC and the contribution they have made to American culture and the economy is immeasurable. Same in Melbourne, the Jewish community have made a vast contribution.

Palestine was a poor choice. And I do think that the younger generations in the Jewish diaspora are less supportive of Zionism than they were in the past.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

They can all move to NYC.

Or, perhaps even easier, we could relocate Hamas to Columbus, Ohio.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Or, perhaps even easier, we could relocate Hamas to Columbus, Ohio.

That's fine. It's already a ******** and I plan on getting out of this cesspool of a state.

 

[CMike]

Sure, there is a huge Jewish population in NYC and the contribution they have made to American culture and the economy is immeasurable. Same in Melbourne, the Jewish community have made a vast contribution.

Palestine was a poor choice. And I do think that the younger generations in the Jewish diaspora are less supportive of Zionism than they were in the past.

And independent "Palestine" never existed.

Israel is the ancestral homeland for all the jews.

 

[CMike]

Sure, but a Jewish community from Eastern Europe claiming to own land in Israel because they believe God promised it to them is no more reasonable.

I do not wish to offend anyone - but I was born in England, and my ancestors were displaced by the Saxons, but that does not give me any right whatsoever to that land - the past is the past. What a distant relative owned generations ago is not by any right yours.

How about buying the land? Does that count?

 

[Estro Felino]

Israel is the ancestral homeland for all the jews.

Because so says the Bible, right?

 

[Flankerl]

Palestinians have the right to constitute their own state in Cisjordan. What makes you think they don't have this right?

What makes you think that i think that they dont have this right?

Fact is there is no Palestine State in the Westbank and Gaza. They could of course declare one without talking to Israel about it or even discuss Borders(no the green line aint a border line, the armistice clearly says so) and what not, but i think that may be a stupid idea.

I generalized, I ask for forgiveness. By the way there are lots of elements which induced me to think that:
- Judaism is not an universal religion. It is very very difficult to become Jewish
- The Bible says they are the chosen people

The Choseness within Judaism has nothing to do with superiority.

The establishment of a Palestinian state was part of the agreement made that led to the establishment of Israel, it was guaranteed in the Balfour declaration.

Well then they probably should have done that in 48.

Its not really Israels fault that they decided it may be a better idea to conquer Israel first.


Though of course they wouldnt have dont that after they had beaten Israel. Egypt, Jordan and Syria would have split the area and that would have been it.

 

[jewscout]

I generalized, I ask for forgiveness. By the way there are lots of elements which induced me to think that:
- Judaism is not an universal religion. It is very very difficult to become Jewish
- The Bible says they are the chosen people

and yet you CAN become jewish and join the nation, this does not mean that Judaism teaches superiority of the jewish race. besides, what is your exposure to the conversion is Judaism?

and your concept of "chosen" in regards to Judaism's defining of it shows how little you actually know about how Torah approaches this responsibility.