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Palestinians under attack

Boethius

New Member
American media has been feeding its country lies. America is a well known allies with Israel and has been for years. It is also no secret that they provide Israel with a huge portion of the very weapons and military funding they are using to attack Palestine. America has been anti Muslim since 2001, and it is easy for people to sympathize with Jews because we all still regret the Holocaust. For America to reject its Jewish allies and become pro Muslim would be absurd. It would also mean sacrificing American military bases in Israel.

Sure Hamas has done some horrible things but not all Muslims are Sunni and not all Sunnis are extremists. The individuals are paying for the acts of groups and governments in both Israel AND Palestine but the media is slanted. Its hate mongering misinformation used to justify Obama bombing children.
 

Boethius

New Member
I believe that it should roughly be the 1967 borders with land swaps (eg Israel get's Modi'in Illit, Palestine gets Nazareth).

What exactly do you mean?
Palestine would get Nazareth? I could be very wrong but isnt that kind of Holy land?
 

xkatz

Well-Known Member
Palestine would get Nazareth? I could be very wrong but isnt that kind of Holy land?
It's part of Israel and Eretz Yisroel technically, but it's predominately Arab Muslim and has no Jewish presence or holy sites. I would want to swap it for one of the large settler cities/blocs (eg Gush Etzion) in the West Bank.
 
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xkatz

Well-Known Member
Why Does Israel Keep Changing Its Story On Gaza?

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Why Does Israel Keep Changing Its Story On Gaza? - YouTube

Why do you keep changing your link? ;)

Did you realize that this- A Six-Step Program to Prosecute the Zionists Who Support Genocide and Political Corruption | Veterans Today
is meaningless conspiracy drivel that has little tidbits like this:

Think about what Jewish professor Nathan Abrams wrote back in 2003, where he specifically and explicitly declared that pornography is not only largely a Jewish enterprise but it has been used intentionally to weaken the moral fabric of the culture and indeed Christianity
:rolleyes:
 
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Matemkar

Active Member
Nope, I read it all, saw it all and I did not agree on all but I wanted to share it. Yet, it took a long time for me and I thought none may be that patient/persistent, so I just shared one video in it. And in time I was going to share the rest, but since you did it, it won't be necessary any more. Thanks for re-sharing the first link of mine. As for the article, I could omit the parts that I don't agree with and present to you. And that part I wouldn't omit. Thanks.
 
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xkatz

Well-Known Member
Nope, I read it all, saw it all and I did not agree on all but I wanted to share it. Yet, it took a long time for me and I thought none may be that patient/persistent, so I just shared one video in it. And in time I was going to share the rest, but since you did it, it won't be necessary any more. Thanks for re-sharing the first link of mine. As for the article, I could omit the parts that I don't agree with and present to you. And that part I wouldn't omit. Thanks.
What parts of the article wouldn't you agree with? I'm curious.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Because in the 'New Testament', the Gospel of Luke has a genealogy which connects Jesus to figures like Abraham, Isaac, and King David. If Jesus wasn't Jewish in any way whatsoever he couldn't have possibly been a descendant of these people. Without the connection, Christians (nor Jesus) wouldn't even be able to claim he was HaMoshiach.

And in the Gospel of Luke it says that God sent Angel Gabriel to Nazareth, the homeland of virgin Mary and Nazareth consists of Arabs 70% Muslims and 30% Christians.

Jewish Israelis didn't either. 1/5 of Israel is Arab (who are legal citizens with full rights). What gave the Arab Muslims the right to take the land in the first place anyways?

So you didn't hear about the Palestinian refugees.
Do you agree then that the Palestinians who were displaced have the right to return back to their own lands which were stolen by the new comers ?
 

xkatz

Well-Known Member
So you didn't hear about the Palestinian refugees.
Do you agree then that the Palestinians who were displaced have the right to return back to their own lands which were stolen by the new comers ?
No I am aware of the problem. I believe that they should have the right to return to a Palestinian state (roughly 1967 borders), but not Israel. Israel should offer some form of compensation to those whose who can prove they had property which they owned taken in the '48 or '67 wars.
 
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xkatz

Well-Known Member
And in the Gospel of Luke it says that God sent Angel Gabriel to Nazareth, the homeland of virgin Mary and Nazareth consists of Arabs 70% Muslims and 30% Christians?
I don't see how Nazareth currently being mainly Arab Muslim has to do with Jesus being Jewish or not...
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
I don't see how Nazareth currently being mainly Arab Muslim has to do with Jesus being Jewish or not...

Jesus spoke Aramaic and not Hebrew.
Jesus spoke Aramaic

John 7:1
After this, Jesus went around in Galilee. He did not want to go about in Judea because the Jewish leaders there were looking for a way to kill him.
 

xkatz

Well-Known Member
Jesus spoke Aramaic and not Hebrew.
Jesus spoke Aramaic
The ancient dialect of Aramaic spoken in the region is nearly identical to Hebrew. Most Jews spoke Aramaic and not Hebrew at that time period and there are even some Jewish prayers said in Aramaic.

Jewish Aramaic - My Jewish Learning

John 7:1
After this, Jesus went around in Galilee. He did not want to go about in Judea because the Jewish leaders there were looking for a way to kill him.
How is that proof he wasn't Jewish? :shrug:
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
The ancient dialect of Aramaic spoken in the region is nearly identical to Hebrew. Most Jews spoke Aramaic and not Hebrew at that time period and there are even some Jewish prayers said in Aramaic.

Jewish Aramaic - My Jewish Learning

That confirms that Palestine wasn't for the Jews since the official language wasn't Hebrew but Aramaic and in which the Jews were forced to learn it in order to communicate with the natives of the people of Palestine who spoke Aramaic and some Greek.

There were 3 languages spoken which were Hebrew ,Aramaic and Greek, but as you point out that Aramaic was used more than Hebrew and i think that tells it all.

How is that proof he wasn't Jewish? :shrug:

Is it that hard to understand ?
Jesus didn't walk in their lands which means that the place which he lived in wasn't for the Jews otherwise his life will be in risk.
 
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