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Paris terrorists not Practicing Muslims at all

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
More like Islamic apostates than moderates, moderates still go to the mosque and don't drink alcohol.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Yeah, but we're being told these extremists are Islamic fundamentalists, these guys are not fundamentalists by any stretch of the word, Islamic fundamentalists practically live at the mosque, not just Friday prayers , but up to 5 times every day, and they never touch alcohol and rarely smoke.
Apparently that is changing. And, those living in the caliphate do these things. They just give a break to would be martyrs. Those who are in charge in the caliphate are certainly Islamic Fundamentalists in the way you describe.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
More like Islamic apostates than moderates, moderates still go to the mosque and don't drink alcohol.
You obviously haven't researched what those in the caliphate are doing. They don't drink, don't smoke, spend a ton of time at mosques, etc. The article you cited was referring to would be martyrs not living in the caliphate.
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
More like Islamic apostates than moderates, moderates still go to the mosque and don't drink alcohol.


Apparently you missed this bit of the article you posted

"We can assume that Abaaoud taught him taqiyya -- the Islamic theology of dissimulation -- to fool the security and intelligence services," said Mathieu Guidere, a French terrorism expert.

Under this strategy, set out in manuals published by the Islamic State group in Syria and Iraq, would-be "martyrs" can smoke cannabis or blaspheme to hide their religion from the authorities
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
You obviously haven't researched what those in the caliphate are doing. They don't drink, don't smoke, spend a ton of time at mosques, etc. The article you cited was referring to would be martyrs not living in the caliphate.
Oh, shush, you you. Don't try to confuse the narrative with anything even remotely factual...

My money is still on the Jews for being behind the Paris attacks...
 

Akivah

Well-Known Member
Oh, shush, you you. Don't try to confuse the narrative with anything even remotely factual...

My money is still on the Jews for being behind the Paris attacks...

Yeah, they shouted "Allah Akbar!" while they were murdering those people to continue their ruse.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Once again, this type of behaviour is totally against the basic tenets of Islamic law.
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Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Yeah, they shouted "Allah Akbar!" while they were murdering those people to continue their ruse.

Its king of like shouting "God bless America" as you drop your bombs on Baghdad
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Once again, this type of behaviour is totally against the basic tenets of Islamic law.
Laws can be interpreted with great flexibility to suit what one wants to do.
But let's say the killers are lapsed Muslims.
What do you think motivated them?
What is the significance of news reports that ISS claimed responsibility, & the the killers shouted praise for Allah?
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Once again, this type of behaviour is totally against the basic tenets of Islamic law.
That's why they don't permit it AT ALL in areas they control. Only would-be martyrs in far off lands who are not living in the caliphate are permitted to disguise their identity in this way. This is not a valid argument.
 

Akivah

Well-Known Member
That's why they don't permit it AT ALL in areas they control. Only would-be martyrs in far off lands who are not living in the caliphate are permitted to disguise their identity in this way. This is not a valid argument.

It is far preferential than acknowledging that devout Muslims can be terrorists.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
That's why they don't permit it AT ALL in areas they control. Only would-be martyrs in far off lands who are not living in the caliphate are permitted to disguise their identity in this way. This is not a valid argument.

Typically you're skimming and not reading what I am saying, my comment referred to the un Islamic conduct of ISIS in their Califate, executing people for crimes that are definitely not the death penalty under Islamic law, as per the Koran.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Laws can be interpreted with great flexibility to suit what one wants to do.
But let's say the killers are lapsed Muslims.
What do you think motivated them?
What is the significance of news reports that ISS claimed responsibility, & the the killers shouted praise for Allah?

Shouting "Allahu Akbar" does not make one a practicing Muslim, it would appear these particular bombers are plain psychopaths, not much different than the non Muslim mass murderer shooters in America.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Typically you're skimming and not reading what I am saying, my comment referred to the un Islamic conduct of ISIS in their Califate, executing people for crimes that are definitely no the death penalty under Islamic law, as per the Koran.
They, like many devout Muslims and Islamic Fundamentalists, adhere to Hadiths. You must know that the Koran is not the only book they see as being the word of God. So, are you claiming that these punishments go against the Hadiths as well? To say that any Islamic Fundamentalist is limited to only what is claimed in the Quran is certainly incorrect.
 
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