Peace and Security Unattainable.

[TransmutingSoul]

I happen to agree with that one. I believe if he really wanted to want all of us to know what was going to happen in cases like this, it would have been in his official correspondence. Why say it only privately to one person if it is something we should all know. Make sense to you?

Also, one thing I believe about the Guardians prophecies may not be shared by many Baha'is. I believe as he had the interpretative capacity concerning the Writings, all his prophecies derived from that capacity in interpreting the prophecies in the Writings. He would say sometimes he didn't know exactly what would happen. He gave the general shape of what was going to happen.

I would agree, I see that he had such a good grasp of what was offered, that the potential of what could unfold was seen a lot clearer than we ever could, in the unofficial station. (Way, way, way beyond)

In the official station there are warnings for America that still contain greater detail in both books and tablets.

Regards Tony

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Explain.

Every civilization that puts opulent lifestyles and wealth before spiritual capacity falls into a materialism mindset that suppresses our spiritual capacities.

It is at these times that the oppression of the majority by a minority, becomes the way of life.

It is at these times God has sent the Messengers to prewarn us of the consequences and offers us a guide to spiritual capacity.

Regards Tony

 

[TransmutingSoul]

This is delusional imo,since when has the author of your books ever bought peace?.

I always like to consider that the effort for peace starts with our own self.

As the Nations now rise against Putin, in a manner noted in that quote, can you offer how such a Message could not bring peace, apart from them not being able to foster the required unity of purpose?

Regards Tony

 

[England my lionheart]

I always like to consider that the effort for peace starts with our own self.

As the Nations now rise against Putin, in a manner noted in that quote, can you offer how such a Message could not bring peace, apart from them not being able to foster the required unity of purpose?

Regards Tony

Please give me an example of when it has?,i'm not expecting you to be able too,there is no unity of purpose and and i can't see any message like you quoted bringing peace,doesn't happen,it's more honest imo to realise that we are all the same but also different,throughout recorded human history there has never been unity.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Please give me an example of when it has?,i'm not expecting you to be able too,there is no unity of purpose and and i can't see any message like you quoted bringing peace,doesn't happen,it's more honest imo to realise that we are all the same but also different,throughout recorded human history there has never been unity.

I see the example is unfolding for people to compare right now. What is happening against Putin. Read what was offered in the late 1800's and consider that against what happened after the 1st world war with the league of Nations and 2nd world wars with the United Nations and now the conversations between Nations against Putin.

What the OP offers is what was written needs to be implemented, not that it has already in the past, it needs to be implemented now, which will not happen until much more destruction is reigning down on many innocent peoples.

Regards Tony

 

[England my lionheart]

I see the example is unfolding for people to compare right now. What is happening against Putin. Read what was offered in the late 1800's and consider that against what happened after the 1st world war with the league of Nations and 2nd world wars with the United Nations and now the conversations between Nations against Putin.

What the OP offers is what was written needs to be implemented, not that it has already in the past, it needs to be implemented now, which will not happen until much more destruction is reigning down on many innocent peoples.

Regards Tony

Tony,humans and destruction go hand in hand from when we first evolved,it's what we do.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Tony,humans and destruction go hand in hand from when we first evolved,it's what we do.

I see we can rise above our animal condition and have confidence the majority of humanity will do just that.

Regards Tony

 

[England my lionheart]

I see we can rise above our animal condition and have confidence the majority of humanity will do just that.

Regards Tony

Regards tony

I applaud your optimism.

 

[F1fan]

Every civilization that puts opulent lifestyles and wealth before spiritual capacity falls into a materialism mindset that suppresses our spiritual capacities.

It is at these times that the oppression of the majority by a minority, becomes the way of life.

It is at these times God has sent the Messengers to prewarn us of the consequences and offers us a guide to spiritual capacity.

Regards Tony

I still don't know what you mean. Are you referring to Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous opulent, or your neighbor getting a new TV and garbage disposal, and they should live more primitively?

And last time I checked the USA is very materialistic (as in buying things) and also extremely religious.

 

[rational experiences]

The premise is who has learnt studied theoried the best spiritual teaching of an age old teaching?

Who believed. Who has had spirituality proven agree then acted upon the advice?

Who agree the Prince of peace allowed men of old to give away tribal king wars? Title king also.

As they had and did in the Jesus proof brothers spiritual life lost in every country.

One same moment!

As the claim I was taught it was heavenly as the occurrence of proof. Man's mind problems. Behaviours.

How many humans anywhere have had angelic visitation voice or assistance?

How many humans harmed by AI?

You claim I want proof my rich man choices past behaviours are wrong. It's been given time and time again by human family.

Still you disagree.

With humans we named were prophets seers martyrs?

In any country. Just humans!

If we know we lived a coded behaviour self possession. We know.

If we became self possessed we can't change what we encoded into our own psyche.

But we can be taught it's real.and its our human problem.

What brain entrainment was used for. Spiritual constants prayed chanted used against Ai science theists caused constant. By machines.

Changed chemical behaviours.

By mind status.

As we were told AI is humans world community destroyer. Mind change.

We had been redeveloping our psyche mind with a beautiful worded conversational language of good manners good will to all.

Until the falling star radiating earth hit again.

I realised that simple advice as I watched a movie wondering why peaceful beautiful polite language was changed.

Our warning.

We taught about star fall for personal human meanings of wisdom.

Healer medical advised. Consciousness.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

I applaud your optimism.

I applaud all those that have the same optimism, and there will be many millions.

I hope you stay safe and happy.

Regards Tony

 

[rational experiences]

The premise is who has learnt studied theoried the best spiritual teaching of an age old teaching?

Who believed. Who has had spirituality proven agree then acted upon the advice?

Who agree the Prince of peace allowed men of old to give away tribal king wars? Title king also.

As they had and did in the Jesus proof brothers spiritual life lost in every country.

One same moment!

As the claim I was taught it was heavenly as the occurrence of proof. Man's mind problems. Behaviours.

How many humans anywhere have had angelic visitation voice or assistance?

How many humans harmed by AI?

You claim I want proof my rich man choices past behaviours are wrong. It's been given time and time again by human family.

Still you disagree.

With humans we named were prophets seers martyrs?

In any country. Just humans!

If we know we lived a coded behaviour self possession. We know.

If we became self possessed we can't change what we encoded into our own psyche.

But we can be taught it's real.and its our human problem.

What brain entrainment was used for. Spiritual constants prayed chanted used against Ai science theists caused constant. By machines.

Changed chemical behaviours.

By mind status.

As we were told AI is humans world community destroyer. Mind change.

We had been redeveloping our psyche mind with a beautiful worded conversational language of good manners good will to all.

Until the falling star radiating earth hit again.

I realised that simple advice as I watched a movie wondering why peaceful beautiful polite language was changed.

Our warning.

We taught about star fall for personal human meanings of wisdom.

Healer medical advised. Consciousness.

How I now use speech and words to the naysayers is my owned proof.

Why I ignore your so called advice speak a better expression...I can't you ignorant selves. I told you my brain changed.

 

[CG Didymus]

Well, I think many citizens around the world are not as well informed or educated enough to really vote in their best interests, so it could be a human problem. Many nations are doing pretty good to manage themselves and work cooperatively. The more extremist believers in any idea tend to be the fly in the ointment. Education might help resolve this. Of course, some don't want a broad and liberal education for the masses. So conflict over power continues.

Democracy in the U.S. has a few problems. And did they ever trust the masses to vote for the right person?

 

[TransmutingSoul]

I still don't know what you mean. Are you referring to Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous opulent, or your neighbor getting a new TV and garbage disposal, and they should live more primitively?

And last time I checked the USA is very materialistic (as in buying things) and also extremely religious.

Materialism I am talking about is the lack of Virtues and morals, which unfolds in many diverse ways.

Regards Tony

 

[joe1776]

This is why societies all over the planet need to emphasize a complete education of its children. Ignorance is our default state and we need to learn crucial skills, which includes civics, history, and reasoning.

If reasoning is taught, would not the very first lesson to children be ,"Regard all claims of fact with unbiased doubt?"

Imagine the uproar that would cause with religious parents!

 

[TransmutingSoul]

If reasoning is taught, would not the very first lesson to children be ,"Regard all claims of fact with unbiased doubt?"

Imagine the uproar that would cause with religious parents!

To be unbiased would not already contain the element of doubt. That is actually and oxymoron.

Regards Tony

 

[F1fan]

Materialism I am talking about is the lack of Virtues and morals, which unfolds in many diverse ways.

Regards Tony

You could have just said that. Using religious code talk confuses people.

 

[F1fan]

Democracy in the U.S. has a few problems. And did they ever trust the masses to vote for the right person?

It was just property owners who could vote. Then all men wanted to vote. Then black men were allowed to vote, in some areas. Then those pesky women wanted to vote. Then black people wanted rights to vote. Now we have too many people voting, according to Republicans (but that's a secret).

 

[TransmutingSoul]

It was just property owners who could vote. Then all men wanted to vote. Then black men were allowed to vote, in some areas. Then those pesky women wanted to vote. Then black people wanted rights to vote. Now we have too many people voting, according to Republicans (but that's a secret).

That is a sad post on on levels.

Regards Tony

 

[joe1776]

To be unbiased would not already contain the element of doubt. That is actually and oxymoron.

Regards Tony

Not by my definition of the word "doubt." That claim might be true or it might not be. I'll have to think about it. Study it. That's unbased doubt.