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Political Affiliation Changing in US

Heyo

Veteran Member
I think so. Republicans generally stand for smaller fiscally conservative government that's less intrusive into people's lives.
Republicans pretend to stand for smaller fiscally conservative government that's less intrusive into people's lives.

And some people even do believe them. The reality is quite different. Republicans spend with full hands on the military and tax cuts for the rich. For the last 30 years the deficit went up during republican presidencies and down (or less fast up) during democrat presidencies.
And less intrusive into people's lives? What is more intrusive than being forced to carry a child to term?
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Interesting approach... could you expand a little?
US-Americans are generally uneducated and stupid (compared to other industrialised countries) and that trend is now going into a feedback loop. Uneducated teachers are now feeding lies and half truth to the students and uneducated, stupid voters are voting for uneducated and stupid politicians - who in turn lower the standards of education and the standards of public discourse - which makes voters even stupider. Idiocracy was a documentary.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
I think that's misleading. I think if an election were held today, just as many independents would vote for Biden as voted for him, before, Not because they liked him, but because Trump was such a disaster. Now that Trump is out, they can express their dislike of Biden. But that doesn't mean they wouldn't vote democrat again if the republicans insist on running another fascist lunatic. And being that the republican party is mostly made up of fascist lunatics, now, that would be a likely possibility.
I'm not so sure...
More voters would pick Trump over Biden if election were held today: poll
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Republicans pretend to stand for smaller fiscally conservative government that's less intrusive into people's lives.

And some people even do believe them. The reality is quite different. Republicans spend with full hands on the military and tax cuts for the rich. For the last 30 years the deficit went up during republican presidencies and down (or less fast up) during democrat presidencies.
And less intrusive into people's lives? What is more intrusive than being forced to carry a child to term?
This is true. Didn't matter if it was Republican or Democrat - spending money is the name of their game.

But, at least by rank and file, we do believe in less government and less spending.

However, what IS wrong, is your tax cut issue (which was for all and not just the rich).

And definitely less intrusive.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
US-Americans are generally uneducated and stupid (compared to other industrialised countries)

Uneducated teachers are now feeding lies and half truth to the students and uneducated, stupid voters are voting for uneducated and stupid politicians - who in turn lower the standards of education and the standards of public discourse - which makes voters even stupider. Idiocracy was a documentary.
Hmmm... and I thought it was the other way around. :rolleyes:

Though the rest of your post is quite true.
 
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Sand Dancer

Currently catless
My political affiliation has changed since I first registered to vote in 1992. I was a lifelong Republican for 26 years before I left the Republican Party and registered to vote as a Democrat shorty before the 2018 midterm elections.

Me too. Am I you or are you me?
 

Sand Dancer

Currently catless

Sand Dancer

Currently catless
I think so. Republicans generally stand for smaller fiscally conservative government that's less intrusive into people's lives.

But GOP wants bigger government socially. Dems want smaller government socially and bigger government fiscally. Libertarians are pretty much consistently small government.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
But GOP wants bigger government socially. Dems want smaller government socially and bigger government fiscally. Libertarians are pretty much consistently small government.
Gooooo libertarians.

I think you have it wrong, though.

GOP (politicians) and Dems want bigger government... gooooo libertarians!
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I think so. Republicans generally stand for smaller fiscally conservative government that's less intrusive into people's lives.
Come on now. Unless you have the memory and attention span of a gnat, You know that everyone has already seen this BS get slam-dunked into the trash earlier in this very thread.
 

anna.

colors your eyes with what's not there
Lawyers who must submit work that may be made in to law usually proof their work dozens of times for just one phrase or word that may be imprecise. Please understand these forums, for my benefit if not others, are not that formal.

They don't have to be that precise. Most of us aren't lawyers, or expect others to be lawyers. It's just nice when people own their imprecision or their unwillingness to support their contentions.
 

anna.

colors your eyes with what's not there
Interesting and certainly a factor. I wouldn't trust Drudge as much as I would trust Pew. A little more detailed.

I think of Drudge as the aggregator that it is, and its links are of varying value. The link I posted is goes to Axios, and the research behind the graph is from Roper Center for Public Opinion Research.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
But GOP wants bigger government socially. Dems want smaller government socially and bigger government fiscally. Libertarians are pretty much consistently small government.
I'm for a smaller fiscally conservative govt that does not encourage intrusion into people's lives and choices.

But that's just me.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
I think of Drudge as the aggregator that it is, and its links are of varying value. The link I posted is goes to Axios, and the research behind the graph is from Roper Center for Public Opinion Research.
I just noticed the graph is done in 2018. I think too many think have happened and may need a more current graph.
 
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