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Poll: Are all carrots agnostic?

Are all carrots agnostic.

  • Yes: it's rooted in their character

    Votes: 6 30.0%

  • Yes: because there was no historical Jesus

    Votes: 3 15.0%

  • Yes: and vegans are equally brainless

    Votes: 6 30.0%

  • It depends on whether you mean 'hard agnostic' or 'soft agnostic'

    Votes: 5 25.0%
  • Total voters
    20
beenherebeforeagain

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
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Jayhawker Soule said:
Meanwhile, 10 out of 14 respondents agree that carrots are agnostic. That strikes me as a powerful consensus. Now, who's going to tell the carrots?
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Notice that none of the respondents are (apparently) carrots. So, let's a have a vote on what someone else thinks/experiences, and take meaning from that!:confused:
 
Willamena

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Me Myself said:
Thats one possible definition.

Another definition is to simply not have something.

Check the OD
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It wouldn't make any difference. The Oxford would agree with me.

It says: lack - to be without something.

You can't be without something without something to be without.
 
Willamena

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Me Myself said:
In this case a belief.

Simple.
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It's fine if you're lacking apples, or pink, or a warm puppy--those things exist objectively so there is every possibility for you to have them. Beliefs are a different ball of wax. They are unique to every individual, and they are personal. They can even be unique to each moment of thought.

If you lack a puppy, I can run out and buy you one. If you lack a belief, in this sense , there is nothing anyone can do, because that's looking at it backwards. Belief isn't something you can run just out and buy. It's the world encapsulated in thought.

Let's see you lack that.
 
Me Myself

Me Myself

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Willamena said:
It's fine if you're lacking apples, or pink, or a warm puppy--those things exist objectively so there is every possibility for you to have them. Beliefs are a different ball of wax. They are unique to every individual, and they are personal. They can even be unique to each moment of thought.

If you lack a puppy, I can run out and buy you one. If you lack a belief, in this sense , there is nothing anyone can do, because that's looking at it backwards. Belief isn't something you can run just out and buy. It's the world encapsulated in thought.

Let's see you lack that.
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So you think that the proposition of the OD of lacking abelief is absurd? I thought you said you did not disgree with the OD.

OD says you can lack a belief, and says lacking can mean having less than needed of something OR simply not having said something.

I dont know what to tell you, it is terribly simple, you keep bringing a lot of mental gymnastic to ver straightforward and precise descriptions from the oxford.

I just dont get it.
 
Willamena

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Me Myself said:
So you think that the proposition of the OD of lacking abelief is absurd? I thought you said you did not disgree with the OD.

OD says you can lack a belief, and says lacking can mean having less than needed of something OR simply not having said something.
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It's only absurd if you apply it to babies who are not capable of forming beliefs, or to the case of people ignorant of the subject of the belief. In the case of self-reflecting adults with access to knowledge, they can be said to "lack belief" in the context that they could "just run out" and do research, investigate, read, talk to other people and get opinions, acquire abstract concepts, apply logic, have revelations and just plain understand things. They can, and do, encapsulate the world in thought, personally and unqiuely.

Where's it's possible to have a puppy, it's possible to lack a puppy. Where it's impossible to have, the lack too is impossible.

Me Myself said:
I dont know what to tell you, it is terribly simple, you keep bringing a lot of mental gymnastic to ver straightforward and precise descriptions from the oxford.


I just dont get it.
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The obvious is always "terribly simple." It's just that not everyone has the same obvious.
 
Me Myself

Me Myself

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Willamena said:
It's fine if you're lacking apples, or pink, or a warm puppy--those things exist objectively so there is every possibility for you to have them. Beliefs are a different ball of wax. They are unique to every individual, and they are personal. They can even be unique to each moment of thought.

If you lack a puppy, I can run out and buy you one. If you lack a belief, in this sense , there is nothing anyone can do, because that's looking at it backwards. Belief isn't something you can run just out and buy. It's the world encapsulated in thought.

Let's see you lack that.
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Definition of lack in Oxford Dictionaries (British & World English)

the state of being without or not having enough of something

You are talking about the part after the or, the babies lack as in the part before the or.
 
Willamena

Willamena

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Me Myself

Me Myself

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Willamena said:
Are you asking a question?

I'm talking about "the state of being without something" rather than "the state of not having enough of something." I have all the beliefs I need, and I believe babies do too.
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Tey may have all tey need, the reason they lack it is because they just DOTN HAVE IT, the state of being without.

They are without such believe, so they lack it.
 
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