Pornography poll

[freethinker44]

Woo hoo! Porn is winning!
I especially like that so many support it despite their belief that it exploits women.....or perhaps because it exploits women.

It's funny because porn is one of the few industries where pay inequality favors women over men. And in this case it isn't a difference of a 5 to 10 percent, women in porn make several times what men make.

 

[Skwim]

The laws regarding pornography only regulate distribution of it, and even then they barely regulate that. There are no regulations dealing with safety or health of performers. Those that do require condom use and health screenings do so of their own free will. Even the recent condom law in LA wasn't designed to regulate porn, it was designed to drive them out of the city.

That would be the purview of OSHA. So do you know for a fact that OSHA requires the use of condoms in pornography? If they don't, then it's a moot matter. Do you know for a fact that OSHA requires health screenings in pornography? If they don't, then it's a moot matter. In any case you admit that "there are no regulations dealing with safety or health of performers." And obviously you know enough about the inner workings of the industry to know that regulations X, Y, and Z are necessary. So, if you would, please cite your expertize in OSHA standards, and your familiarity with the porn business that makes you so sure of your claim. Thanks.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's funny because porn is one of the few industries where pay inequality favors women over men. And in this case it isn't a difference of a 5 to 10 percent, women in porn make several times what men make.

At first, I read that it was several times what you make. But then my brain started working properly again.

 

[dust1n]

Couldn't answer the question -- all four choices, I'm sure, are true to some extent.

 

[WyattDerp]

It's funny because porn is one of the few industries where pay inequality favors women over men. And in this case it isn't a difference of a 5 to 10 percent, women in porn make several times what men make.

That's an outrage! I demand more men to pay for other men to get exploited sexually. Also, what's with the ageism, can we start exploiting the elderly already? It's not fair that 12 year olds make more money for their pimps than 20 year olds. That's just no way to run an economy.

 

[freethinker44]

That's an outrage! I demand more men to pay for other men to get exploited sexually. Also, what's with the ageism, can we start exploiting the elderly already? It's not fair that 12 year olds make more money for their pimps than 20 year olds. That's just no way to run an economy.

Men already pay for men to get exploited in porn. It's just that most of that money goes to the woman in the scene. Women actually get paid less to have sex with another woman than they do with a man, which suggests that male/female porn is in higher demand than female/female porn. So yeah, in general men watch porn to see other men have sex with women and simply to see women.

Ageism? Apparently you aren't aware of Granny porn.

 

[Alceste]

Woo hoo! Porn is winning!
I especially like that so many support it despite their belief that it exploits women.....or perhaps because it exploits women.

I don't support porn. I reject censorship.

 

[WyattDerp]

Men already pay for men to get exploited in porn. [..] Apparently you aren't aware of Granny porn.

But the demand is nowhere near the same, hence the deplorable disparity in opportunities to get exploited.

 

[Alceste]

It's funny because porn is one of the few industries where pay inequality favors women over men. And in this case it isn't a difference of a 5 to 10 percent, women in porn make several times what men make.

That's just supply and demand in action.

 

[Alceste]

I would argue that the negative effects of porn are not even the result of exploitation, but the stigma placed on porn, or sex more specifically, by society. It would be better to have it out in the open where it could be well regulated just like any other business.

So a porn actress who contracts HIV and / or becomes incontinent from brutal anal sex is harmed by "stigma", and not the porn industry?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Personally, I see no reason to highlight people being exploited in the sex industry compared to any other industry. Whatever your background, baggage, personality, etc, as long as you're a free adult, then it's all our own choice to be "exploited" in whatever ways we choose. I don't really see working 80 hours a week at two minimum wage menial jobs for scraps as any less exploitative and demeaning than doing double penetration on film. Many people are messed up and their lives are pretty much ****, and most aren't in the sex industry.

 

[freethinker44]

That's just supply and demand in action.

But it's not really. Women get paid less to do a lesbian scene than they do to do a heterosexual scene. So 'supply and demand' would suggest that people don't want to see women in porn, they want to see men and women. Men are treated as props in porn.

 

[freethinker44]

Personally, I see no reason to highlight people being exploited in the sex industry compared to any other industry. Whatever your background, baggage, personality, etc, as long as you're a free adult, then it's all our own choice to be "exploited" in whatever ways we choose. I don't really working 80 hours a week at two minimum wage menial jobs for scraps as any less exploitative and demeaning than doing double penetration on film. Many people are messed up and their lives are pretty much ****, and most aren't in the sex industry.

Right. A double penetration scene pays around 1500 dollars also. I was changing tires at Walmart with chronic back pain and some weird skin issue on my hands and I considered myself lucky to break 1200 a month. They got 1500 for what, an hour, maybe two and a couple days of soreness, heck I will even concede a couple weeks of soreness, at least they have time to recover without going broke, I have to get up and do it the next day with my back sore and my hands cracked and bleeding.

 

[Alceste]

But it's not really. Women get paid less to do a lesbian scene than they do to do a heterosexual scene. So 'supply and demand' would suggest that people don't want to see women in porn, they want to see men and women. Men are treated as props in porn.

But there are more men willing to do porn than women. Therefore supply and demand.

 

[WyattDerp]

Right. A double penetration scene pays around 1500 dollars also. I was changing tires at Walmart with chronic back pain and some weird skin issue on my hands and I considered myself lucky to break 1200 a month. They got 1500 for what, an hour, maybe two and a couple days of soreness, heck I will even concede a couple weeks of soreness, at least they have time to recover without going broke, I have to get up and do it the next day with my back sore and my hands cracked and bleeding.

Words fail me. That is, the ones that come to mind I better keep to myself.

 

[freethinker44]

But there are more men willing to do porn than women. Therefore supply and demand.

Should that matter? Should we pay one gender less money to do the same work as the other simply because there are more willing to do the work? There are more women willing to become a nurse than there men, so should men get paid more simply because there are fewer men?

 

[Alceste]

Should that matter? Should we pay one gender less money to do the same work as the other simply because there are more willing to do the work? There are more women willing to become a nurse than there men, so should men get paid more simply because there are fewer men?

The gender of a nurse is not relevant to the work. The same can't be said of porn.

Also, the risks are higher for women. It's not the same job as it is for men.

 

[Wherenextcolumbus]

But it's not really. Women get paid less to do a lesbian scene than they do to do a heterosexual scene. So 'supply and demand' would suggest that people don't want to see women in porn, they want to see men and women. Men are treated as props in porn.

Oh no! Men cum on women's faces like a dog ***** up a tree in porn but they are the props and we should feel bad that they aren't the ones in pain?

 

[Wherenextcolumbus]

But there are more men willing to do porn than women. Therefore supply and demand.

Not only that but being penetrated often in a rough way is more physically damaging and painful.

 

[Alceste]

Not only that but being penetrated often in a rough way is more physically damaging and painful.

Exactly. And in addition to the physical damage, there is also the exclusive-to-women risk of pregnancy and an elevated risk of HIV.