Pornography poll

[Wherenextcolumbus]

Men already pay for men to get exploited in porn. It's just that most of that money goes to the woman in the scene. Women actually get paid less to have sex with another woman than they do with a man, which suggests that male/female porn is in higher demand than female/female porn. So yeah, in general men watch porn to see other men have sex with women and simply to see women.

Ageism? Apparently you aren't aware of Granny porn.

Men watch porn because whether they admit it or not or whether its conscious or subconscious, they like to jerk off to the sexual subordination of women. It makes them feel good to see a woman dominated, put in her place, take it.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Men watch porn because whether they admit it or not or whether its conscious or subconscious, they like to jerk off to the sexual subordination of women. It makes them feel good to see a woman dominated, put in her place, take it.

I think this probably says more about you than every single man on the planet.

 

[Alceste]

Men watch porn because whether they admit it or not or whether its conscious or subconscious, they like to jerk off to the sexual subordination of women. It makes them feel good to see a woman dominated, put in her place, take it.

I think that's more why so much porn is the way it is. Maybe the majority. Obviously there's an appetite for that kind of material. But there are endless sub-categories, including men being dominated, lesbian porn and couple videos.

I think people watch porn because they like watching other people have sex. Their specific tastes may be influenced by these motives, but not necessarily the desire to watch porn in general.

 

[Aquitaine]

Men watch porn because whether they admit it or not or whether its conscious or subconscious, they like to jerk off to the sexual subordination of women. It makes them feel good to see a woman dominated, put in her place, take it.

Then what explains Femdom/Gay porn?

 

[MysticSang'ha]

I think that's more why so much porn is the way it is. Maybe the majority. Obviously there's an appetite for that kind of material. But there are endless sub-categories, including men being dominated, lesbian porn and couple videos.

I think people watch porn because they like watching other people have sex. Their specific tastes may be influenced by these motives, but not necessarily the desire to watch porn in general.

The porn industry is a reflection of who we are as a society. I say clean up the industry by ensuring safe sex is practiced by all actors and actresses, leave paper trails for documentation to help decrease the risk and prevalence of trafficked girls and boys, and perhaps educating all actors and actresses on their rights by allowing them the opportunity to unionize, as well as giving them better health care options post-production.

It's a start, but I think the greater change can happen on a societal level where we look at porn through the voyeuristic lens of a more egalitarian sexual fantasy and where BDSM is explicitly consented.

Seeing more amateur porn becoming popular, and more porn production companies owned and operated by women, I see some hope for the future.

 

[freethinker44]

Oh know! Men cum on women's faces like a dog ***** up a tree in porn but they are the props and we should feel bad that they aren't the ones in pain?

We should feel bad because she got paid 1000 dollars or more while he got 1 or 2 hundred, up to 400 if he is a top name. The average pay for a male performer is about 40,000 a year, the average pay for a female performer is 100,000 per year. The top performers get up to 250,000 and 100,000 per year for female and male respectively. But you are right, women are the ones being victimized, men should just be lucky to be in the same room with them. :sarcastic

 

[Wherenextcolumbus]

I think this probably says more about you than every single man on the planet.

No it says more about men who like a woman to be cummed on.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

No it says more about men who like a woman to be cummed on.

Only assuming the women doesn't enjoy it as well.

 

[Alceste]

We should feel bad because she got paid 1000 dollars or more while he got 1 or 2 hundred, up to 400 if he is a top name. The average pay for a male performer is about 40,000 a year, the average pay for a female performer is 100,000 per year. The top performers get up to 250,000 and 100,000 per year for female and male respectively. But you are right, women are the ones being victimized, men should just be lucky to be in the same room with them. :sarcastic

What is your response to the fact that the risks are higher for women and the work far more physically damaging? And the fact that the actresses in porn (unlike any other job) actually have to be women, and there are fewer women than men willing to do the work?

Pornographers are paying everyone the absolute minimum they can get away with. If men are willing to do it for next to nothing, that's what they'll be paid.

 

[Alceste]

Only assuming the women doesn't enjoy it as well.

I don't know any women who like to have their faces ejaculated on.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

I don't know any women who like to have their faces ejaculated on.

And obviously you know every woman which has ever existed.

And I'd bet all women who do in fact enjoy it only do because they are mentally scarred.

 

[Alceste]

And obviously you know every woman which has ever existed.

And I'd bet all women who do in fact enjoy it only do because they are mentally scarred.

I'm just saying it's a very unusual kink. Women in porn are paid to have their faces ejaculated on. Imagining that they like it might make your viewing experience more pleasurable, but it's highly unrealistic. If you want to try it in the bedroom, you should probably confirm ahead of time that it's OK, just as you would if you wanted to try any relatively unconventional kink.

 

[Wherenextcolumbus]

Only assuming the women doesn't enjoy it as well.

I don't ccaaarrreee! It's a symbol of ownership that's what it is, whether or not an individual woman thinks she likes it or not. I can criticise any woman hating depictions as I see fit, thanks!

 

[Gjallarhorn]

I'm just saying it's a very unusual kink. Women in porn are paid to have their faces ejaculated on. Imagining that they like it might make your viewing experience more pleasurable, but it's highly unrealistic. If you want to try it in the bedroom, you should probably confirm ahead of time that it's OK, just as you would if you wanted to try any relatively unconventional kink.

All of which I agree with, but to take the stance that no women enjoy the act is, given the total sum of human population, unlikely. Same goes for chalking all instances of enjoyment of the act up to brainwashing or trauma.

 

[Wherenextcolumbus]

All of which I agree with, but to take the stance that no women enjoy the act is, given the total sum of human population, unlikely. Same goes for chalking all instances of enjoyment of the act up to brainwashing or trauma.

Whatever helps you sleep at night

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Whatever helps you sleep at night

Would you like to provide evidence to validate your point? Or are you more comfortable with the "men are pigs" excuse?

 

[Wherenextcolumbus]

Would you like to provide evidence to validate your point? Or are you more comfortable with the "men are pigs" excuse?

Well You said it, cause I didn't say all men are pigs

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Well You said it, cause I didn't say all men are pigs

So, no evidence. Okay.

 

[Alceste]

All of which I agree with, but to take the stance that no women enjoy the act is, given the total sum of human population, unlikely. Same goes for chalking all instances of enjoyment of the act up to brainwashing or trauma.

I didn't say that. I just said that if women who like having their faces come on exist, I have not met them. In contrast, most straight women do like some combination of coitus, cunnilingus, fellatio, toys, anal play, light bondage, and / or mutual masturbation. We talk about these things.

 

[roger1440]

Yes, prostitution in general is a consequence of economic coercion. Also, according to an interview with a porn star (and other sources) virtually all women in porn are adult survivors of childhood sexual abuse. They're messed up, basically, and porn perpetuates the cycle of sexual exploitation that they have experienced since childhood.

There are exceptions to the rule, of course, like genuine amateur couples and porn created by and for women, but the majority of available porn is women who were messed up by childhood abuse being sexually exploited on camera because they can't think of any other way to make a decent living.

Is this "interview with a porn star" available online? I would like to read it.