President Obama declares this June Gay and Lesbian Pride Month

[NoahideHiker]

Everyone recognises caucasian males in America by default.

So I, as a white heterosexual, do not deserve recognition for my race and sexual orientation? We don't have a month or even a day. Would it not be fair to set aside a day or month where we could all celebrate the vast accomplishments of whites throughout history as well as great heterosexuals?

 

[Reverend Rick]

Everyone recognises caucasian males in America by default.

Recognised or despised? The fact that you do not capitalise "Caucasian" is insulting to this group.

In case someone actually is taking me seriously this morning, I am joking.

Have a happy month of June everyone!

 

[rojse]

So I, as a white heterosexual, do not deserve recognition for my race and sexual orientation? We don't have a month or even a day. Would it not be fair to set aside a day or month where we could all celebrate the vast accomplishments of whites throughout history as well as great heterosexuals?

What? You're not happy that white males make up the majority of managers and CEO's? (even when considered in relation to their percentage of the total population?) Or that they, along with caucasian women, make up the majority of celebrities? Or television people? Authors?

 

[Dirty Penguin]

You know, ever since I got on my schizophrenia meds, I think I might have become more attracted to members of the same sex.

"Keep your filthy paws off me you darn dirty homosapien!"


I kid....I kid.....

It's amazing how truly I don't care what one's lifestyle is. Here's a question......What if being "heterosexual"...is an abnormality???

Just a thought.....

 

[NoahideHiker]

What? You're not happy that white males make up the majority of managers and CEO's? (even when considered in relation to their percentage of the total population?) Or that they, along with caucasian women, make up the majority of celebrities? Or television people? Authors?

So basically your answer is no then?

Who said anything about males or even being male?

That's sexist.

 

[rojse]

So basically your answer is no then?

Who said anything about males or even being male?

That's sexist.

You call me to task for using males over females as an example for this thread (which I believe I done without being sexist, but see your point), yet you see no problem with using caucasians and heterosexuals over non-caucasians and homosexuals?

 

[NoahideHiker]

You call me to task for using males over females as an example for this thread (which I believe I done without being sexist, but see your point), yet you see no problem with using caucasians and heterosexuals over non-caucasians and homosexuals?

my being a male has nothing to do with it yet you made that a point of the discussion. That's sexist.

Over non-whites and homosexuals? You misrepresent me. I never said anything of the kind. I'm talking about being equal and giving both groups the same respects not holding any group above another. I never said there shouldn't be a gay and lesbian month nor a black history month.

I'm simply asking why it's OK to be bigoted towards heterosexuals and whites by not officially designating a month for everyone to celebrate their race and history and sexuality? It's a very simple yes or no answer everyone keeps dancing around;

Shouldn't whites and heteros get a month designated to them by the government to celebrate their race and orientation?

Yes or no.

 

[tumbleweed41]

Shouldn't whites and heteros get a month designated to them by the government to celebrate their race and orientation?

Yes or no.

No.
As white heterosexuals are not a minority, have not historically been suppressed in America, and do not suffer from regressive stereotyping.

Sorry, but your position is absurd.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Not really the case since Jesus is the Word, the Word is the bible, I do base my believe in the bible,that is according to Jesus,we come to believe by the Word.

So the Bible is Jesus? That's not the normal way that transubstatiation is supposed to work, you know. :sarcastic

Jesus used the Word when He was tempted by satan,I believe the Word to be alive and active,it is profitable for teaching for correction and training in righteousness,however you are correct Jesus said to love your neighbor as yourself sums up all the laws.

Exactly where in the Bible (i.e. in what chapter and verse of "Jesus") does it say that the Bible is sufficient for correction and training in righteousness?

In the same way that other psychoses such as schizophrenia are treated.

"Abnormal" <> "psychosis".

I am above average height; in this way, I'm "abnormal". However, my "abnormality" does not require any treatment whatsoever.

The immorality for me is not the condition itself, but the way in which all public dissention is stifled by the gay lobby and same sex instruction is forced on 5 year-olds in UK schools.

If your issue isn't with homosexuality but with its public perception, then why would you go after homosexuality and not the public perception?

Shouldn't whites and heteros get a month designated to them by the government to celebrate their race and orientation?

Yes or no.

I don't know about an official month for heterosexuality, but if you're white, I'm sure there's an officially designated month to celebrate your background. For example, here's one for me (kinda; being a Canadian, I'm missing the "-American" part):

Irish-American Heritage Month - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[NoahideHiker]

No.
As white heterosexuals are not a minority, have not historically been suppressed in America, and do not suffer from regressive stereotyping.

Sorry, but your position is absurd.

And yours is bigoted.

 

[NoahideHiker]

I don't know about an official month for heterosexuality, but if you're white, I'm sure there's an officially designated month to celebrate your background. For example, here's one for me (kinda; being a Canadian, I'm missing the "-American" part):

Irish-American Heritage Month - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This would be a recognition of national affiliation rather than a racial affiliation, would it not?

 

[tumbleweed41]

And yours is bigoted.

As I am not intolerant, nor do I take unjustified offense to the opinions, lifestyles or identities differing from my own, your claim of bigotry is also absurd.:sarcastic

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

This would be a recognition of national affiliation rather than a racial affiliation, would it not?

I'd say more that it's a cultural affiliation and acknowledgement of shared experiences and history. I think this is the intent behind Black History Month, but I think that Black History Month falls short of its goal, since it seems (at least to an outside observer like me) to ignore the variation within the group (or groups, more accurately) that it commemorates.

I think that in general, Black History Month is set up around the shared experiences of a community of people who were descended from slaves brought over from Africa to America centuries ago. And while other groups, such as recent African immigrants or people whose personal history comes from the Carribean or South American slave trade (though at the same time recognizing that there's a wide variation in experiences and history within these groups as well) would nominally be included under the label "black" of "Black History Month", I think the month primarily focuses on that one subset of black people, and in that regard, it's roughly equivalent to something like Irish-American Heritage Month: a commemoration of shared experiences, culture and history.

 

[NoahideHiker]

As I am not intolerant, nor do I take unjustified offense to the opinions, lifestyles or identities differing from my own, your claim of bigotry is also absurd.:sarcastic

You do not hold whites or heterosexuals as being equally worthy of recognition. That is bigoted.

 

[Autodidact]

So which month is set aside to celebrate heterosexuality?

January, February, March...

 

[Autodidact]

Really? Where's the presidential or congressional declaration of such?

Yeah, it's called the Defense of Marriage Act.

 

[Autodidact]

Well apparently so. I mean if we are celebrating diversity and one sexual orientation needs a special month why not have one for the other sexual orientation? If we all want the same rights and equality then both sexual orientations should be recognized, yes? Plus I want to hold a heterosexual pride parade.

Next on my agenda:

Caucasian History Month

I tell you what, how does this sound. First, have your entire life made illegal. Be subject to prosecution for your private life, and liable to be fired, disowned and treated as a pariah for being open about who you are. Try that for a few hundred years. Be discriminated against in every area and have your marriage outlawed. Then we'll give you a month.

Or, to put it differently, I'll trade you. We'll outlaw your marriage, and you can have a Presidential declaration. Deal?

Similarly, let's kidnap you, put you on a ship, make you a slave, and sell your kids away from you. After a few decades of that, we'll discriminate against you and make you a second class citizen for 150 years. After you win the right to vote and participate in society, we'll give you a month to celebrate your history. Sound good to you?

 

[Autodidact]

Well don't I have the same and equal right to have my race and my sexual orientation celebrated and recognized?

Before posting, stop and engage brain. Do gay people have equal rights? Do you support their struggle for equal rights? When both of those things happen, I'll be very sympathetic to your claim.

 

[tumbleweed41]

You do not hold whites or heterosexuals as being equally worthy of recognition. That is bigoted.

"Equally worthy"?
Are you kidding me?
I have white privilege and heterosexual privilege and able-bodied privilege working for me everyday.
I have never been denied a job or opportunity because I am white. I have never feared anyone finding out I am married to someone of the opposite sex. I have never been denied access to a business due to handicap accessibility problems.
As a white heterosexual I am not equal in society, I am granted social privileges that are denied to many blacks, Hispanics, and other races. I am free to marry the one I love, with no social recriminations.
Equal?
Bigoted?
Absurd!

 

[Autodidact]

So I, as a white heterosexual, do not deserve recognition for my race and sexual orientation? We don't have a month or even a day. Would it not be fair to set aside a day or month where we could all celebrate the vast accomplishments of whites throughout history as well as great heterosexuals?

Oh, we recognize you all right. We take not of your long history of oppressing non-white, non-heterosexuals, the many years of violence, injustice and discrimination. Do you really think that should be celebrated?