Propaganda: Why it is necessary for Islam

[Fatihah]

That�s really working in Afghanistan, Ir�q and Palestine isn�t it� :run:

Response: I don't know.

 

[MysticPhD]

Response: Unfortunately for you, there is only one you.

Hardly . . . but the masses always regress toward the lowest common denominator of intelligence. It is no intellectual credential to be among them.

 

[Fatihah]

Please don't encourage more people to think that way. How is anyone threatening Islam? That is the problem. People think we are attacking it and we're not. We are just trying to make the world a safer place (not that we're doing a good job of it). Sure, you might not like what the U.S. is doing, I understand. Sometimes we're stupid. Sometimes we do dumb things. But it's not because of some kind of "war on Islam" or something.

Response: Then may I ask you a question? Why did the US try to go after Osama Bin Laden but ended up seeking and killing Sadaam Hussein?

 

[Fatihah]

Islam needs propaganda because it is an evil, barbarous impersonation of Christianity corrupted by sibling rivalry, desire for power, and pursuit of conquest. All of the decent principles espoused by the propagandists proclaiming it as a peaceful religion are copied from Jesus's beatitudes, etc.

Response: Many statements. Where's the proof?

 

[kai]

Response: Then may I ask you a question? Why did the US try to go after Osama Bin Laden but ended up seeking and killing Sadaam Hussein?

its not an either ,or, situation , Saddam reaped what he had sown and Osama bin Laden is still at large ,in my opinion because he is hiding in Pakistan. Thank you for your answers to my questions on Apostacy and Sodomy.

 

[DavyCrocket2003]

Response: A failure to win converts, no. But the challenge is to prove whether or not the qur'an is from God, a challenge that if applied to any other religion, they will fail in their attempts to prove that their religion is actually from God.

I honestly don't see how the Book of Mormon fails this test. I would be interested to hear why you think it does.

 

[DavyCrocket2003]

do you wish to know the answer?
those people who are smart, those people who have been given a brain by Allah and know what is white and what is black, those people who aren't deaf nor blind. people who are wise.
unfortunately, you fall short of those characteristics, too bad i guess.

You know eselam, I think you would be surprised. If you take a very close look, think you would be amazed at how much gray there is in this world.

 

[DavyCrocket2003]

bush would let everyone die like animals if he could and he ould celebrate about it.

I know he wasn't perfect, far from it. But I do not think he was evil. I could ask a lot of questions about the assumptions you made about him. I'll just start with one: How did he order the execution of his own people?

 

[DavyCrocket2003]

Islam needs propaganda because it is an evil, barbarous impersonation of Christianity corrupted by sibling rivalry, desire for power, and pursuit of conquest. All of the decent principles espoused by the propagandists proclaiming it as a peaceful religion are copied from Jesus's beatitudes, etc.

Careful man! That's strong language! I mean, do you really believe that?

 

[DavyCrocket2003]

Response: Then may I ask you a question? Why did the US try to go after Osama Bin Laden but ended up seeking and killing Sadaam Hussein?

If there was really a war on Islam, why would we kill Sadaam Hussein?

As for your question, Bush was convinced that there were weapons of mass distruction, etc... He felt that Sadaam was a threat (literally, as in he could possibly hit us with a nuke). Why he might feel uncomfortable about that prospect? You can see now. The problem was that it was a huge mistake. There were no weapons of mass destruction. It's really too bad. But the thing I find incredible is that people are so dang mad about the continued U.S. presence there. The only reason we still have soldiers there is to stop the country from descending into violence. We're not trying to take anyone's rights away. We trying to stop people from killing each other. As soon as everyone can get along in Iraq, we'll bid it a belated farewell. Why would we want to leave our men and women there any longer than we had to?

 

[England my lionheart]

Quote Fatihah:Response: A failure to win converts, no. But the challenge is to prove whether or not the qur'an is from God, a challenge that if applied to any other religion, they will fail in their attempts to prove that their religion is actually from God.

Isn't this propaganda,isn't this based on a falsehood,no religion can actually prove it's from God,lets say for the sake of argument Islam could (obviously it can't) prove it's from God,surely it would be a miracle and there would be a queue at the local Mosque.
Making these incredible claims is propaganda like the "one true religion" that is bandied about or the religion of peace which i don't think any Abrahmic religion can claim,i think that a whole lot of people in the world are confused and cannot distinguish the difference between truth and faith.

 

[Gharib]

I know he wasn't perfect, far from it. But I do not think he was evil. I could ask a lot of questions about the assumptions you made about him. I'll just start with one: How did he order the execution of his own people?

oh well how many people tasted the capital punishment while bush had power?

and for the other post that you have made, the iraq war or what ever you've ben speaking is about destroying islam, it is a war against islam.

 

[Alla Prima]

Response: Yes Allah will make islam conquer all religions but the way I was using the word "conquer" was to say that the muslims did not use compulsion to conquer the nations they conquered.

Nonsense. The killing of apostates is nothing if not compulsory.

For anyone who's interested in the subject of compulsion within Islam:
Ebon Musings: Is There Compulsion in Islam?

 

[Alla Prima]

actually my body consists of water, not hot air.
search it up, i'm not a translator, i don't get payed to do that.
this is what i got "morally wrong or bad; immoral; wicked: evil deeds; an evil life." told you george bush fits that profile.

This isn't even a definition. You should know what you are talking about before to make outrageously false claims about people. Why? Because all you end up doing is spout propaganda and sound stupid while doing it.

 

[Alla Prima]

Response: Unfortunately for you, there is only one you.

I am one of billions of people who would find your position on apostasy disgusting and repulsive.

 

[Alla Prima]

ok lets do some talking;
lets just say that he desserved to be killed (i don't know what happened) so we agree to that ok, because he spoke bad about islam.

Is this what Islam teaches you? That those who speak ill of Islam deserve to die? You believe Theo van Gogh deserved to die?

 

[Alla Prima]

If i was a Black running in a KKK stronghold i would probably by killed and buried by White Trash.

If i was running criticising Christianity in a Bible Belt i would probably by beaten to death by Christian trash.

The difference is American law would prosecute those who committed such terrible crimes.

Your argument can be applied to any region, religion and race. Your sick fixation with Islam is the one that need to be cured cause what you are wishing for (elimination of Islam and Muslims) won't just happen so it is better to realize the only option you've got is to coexist and accept that Islam will never vanish.

My argument is Islam has deceived the free world as to it's nature. Islam is not the religion of peace but an ideology of hate, oppression, division, misogyny and domination. What I and others are doing is bringing this fact to light for all to see.

 

[kai]

Response: Pax Islamica??

Pax Romana - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Alla Prima]

Nonsense. The killing of apostates is nothing if not compulsory.

Clearification: The killing of apostates is nothing if not a clear indication that Islam is compulsory.

 

[Gharib]

This isn't even a definition. You should know what you are talking about before to make outrageously false claims about people. Why? Because all you end up doing is spout propaganda and sound stupid while doing it.

so then whats the damn definition of vevil? can you post your version?