Propaganda: Why it is necessary for Islam

[kai]

I think you will find that Muslims played a huge part in the slave trade and still do and if the West is so hated why is it the number one destination for Immigrants from the Middle East.

sshhhhh! the Arab slave trade is a family secret kind of like an embarrassing relative you keep in the attic so no one can see him.

 

[England my lionheart]

sshhhhh! the Arab slave trade is a family secret kind of like an embarrassing relative you keep in the attic so no one can see him.

LOL yes,i'll keep stum

 

[England my lionheart]

Originally Posted by Fatihah
Response: That proof has already been presented in post # 183.

If you like i will post a good argument that the Quran is a Man made book with copyright issues and contradictions but thats not something i would relish doing as my only issues with Islam are Human rights and not to disprove someones beliefs and i think that the Quran alone movement would be much more acceptible to the Human race.

 

[Gharib]

Yes please,it will be interesting

ok first lets get the story straight, if i prove to you that islam is the true religion you will convert huh?

 

[Gharib]

esalam you do know of an incident when Alqueda basically declared war on the US and was sheltered and nurtured by the Taliban.

to be hones i've never heard of that. when did alqaeda declare war on the US. and how or why did the taliban help alqaeda.

Alqueda stuffed its nose right into the US. and what do the Arabs ever do about anything? except sell oil perhaps.

where exactly did it stuff it's nose.

and the police deal with gang related incidents

yeah, so why did the US invade iraq to deal with the iraqi gangs?

 

[England my lionheart]

ok first lets get the story straight, if i prove to you that islam is the true religion you will convert huh?

Yes,i am interested in hearing your argument

 

[gnostic]

honestly Gnostic, i would have taken you serious if you had mentioned money or oil there, but you never did.

So are you now saying that attack on oil or attack on money is an attack on Islam?

I didn't realise Allah was so worldly that he is now worried about oil and money.

:biglaugh:

 

[McBell]

Response: On the contrary, I am proving my belief to be right by proving the other belief wrong.

Wrong.
Proving other beliefs wrong in absolutely NO way proves yours correct.
It merely proves the other beliefs wrong.

ok first lets get the story straight, if i prove to you that islam is the true religion you will convert huh?

Kent?
Kent Hovind?...
..Is that you?

 

[McBell]

So are you now saying that attack on oil or attack on money is an attack on Islam?

I didn't realise Allah was so worldly that he is now worried about oil and money.

:biglaugh:

Seems to be turning into:

"OMG! they dropped a bomb and there was one Muslim within 500 miles...THEY ARE ATTACKING ISLAM!!!"
​

 

[Gharib]

Yes,i am interested in hearing your argument

so which part seems false to you? you must give me a starting point.

 

[Gharib]

So are you now saying that attack on oil or attack on money is an attack on Islam?

no thats not what i'm saying.

what i meant by that statment was this "i would have taken you serious if you didn't say that the war on iraq was for political reasosns, since the US also stole their oil, by that i would say you weren't fooled by their scams and would understand what i was saying" but i think you don't do you?

I didn't realise Allah was so worldly that he is now worried about oil and money.

:biglaugh:

i love that cartoon.
no Allah does not care about wealth or oil, he is the source of wealth, so if he was worried about wealth then we should be more worried than him.

 

[Gharib]

Seems to be turning into:

"OMG! they dropped a bomb and there was one Muslim within 500 miles...THEY ARE ATTACKING ISLAM!!!"
​

yeah just like someone having a drink bottle and you guys claiming that it is a bomb. pff

 

[England my lionheart]

so which part seems false to you? you must give me a starting point.

Just about all of it really

 

[kai]

to be hones i've never heard of that. when did alqaeda declare war on the US. and how or why did the taliban help alqaeda.



where exactly did it stuff it's nose.



yeah, so why did the US invade iraq to deal with the iraqi gangs?

:thud:


i am beginning to like you esalam, i dont know why?

 

[gnostic]

i love that cartoon.
no Allah does not care about wealth or oil, he is the source of wealth, so if he was worried about wealth then we should be more worried than him.

If Allah has nothing to do with money and oil, then what does the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq has to do with Islam?

I think you are making pointless arguments about the wars, because you're associating with wars with Islam.

If you are seriously think that the US is attacking Islam, then why did the US bring the largest contingents in 3 different engagements to help Muslims living in Bosnia, Kosovo, and the Kuwait.

 

[Gharib]

:thud:
i am beginning to like you esalam, i dont know why?

well don't expect me to tell you why, you should know.

 

[Gharib]

If Allah has nothing to do with money and oil, then what does the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq has to do with Islam?

you forgot to mentione pakistan and iran too.

they have everything to do with islam, give my religion a bad name, discriminate muslims, try to make non muslims fear us and not to become muslims (like that is working), call my religion violent, call us innocent people terrorists, the list goes on do you want me to write the whole damn thing?

I think you are making pointless arguments about the wars, because you're associating with wars with Islam.

oh no, they are not pointless, i can distinguish white from black, and if you think otherwise, try to convince me then.

If you are seriously think that the US is attacking Islam, then why did the US bring the largest contingents in 3 different engagements to help Muslims living in Bosnia, Kosovo, and the Kuwait.

well it does need pupets doesn't it. the damn albanians think the US helped them, well if it only was that. it's taken hughe amounts of land, all wich are rich with minerals, gold mainly. and along the way it is controlling the country itself, by making contracts that will last for generations to come.

but thats not what you know, because the media doesn't report the truth, it reports what it is tolled.

and what does kosovo have to do with the current wars in the middle east. that was ages ago.

 

[gnostic]

well it does need pupets doesn't it. the damn albanians think the US helped them, well if it only was that. it's taken hughe amounts of land, all wich are rich with minerals, gold mainly. and along the way it is controlling the country itself, by making contracts that will last for generations to come.

In control of what, eselam? A puppet for what?

The majority of the NATO (and the UN) peacekeepers are no longer the Americans. So this business about the Kosovo Albanians being puppets of the US goes out the window.

And beside that, do you preferred to remain a puppet for your Serb master? The Serbs who made you nothing more than 2nd citizens in your own country?

It is better for the Albanians to have no future of their own, and be killed by the death squads, whether the Serbian government don't like the way the Albanians think.

 

[McBell]

so which part seems false to you? you must give me a starting point.

how about you just start at page one?

 

[Gharib]

i knew it gnostic, you are telling me whats happening in my own country. like i already do not know

In control of what, eselam? A puppet for what?

why do people use puppets gnostic, do you know? they control them, is this hard to take in? to control their land take their wealth, have military bases there, try to occupy the world (like thats going to happen). the US thinks they can become the rulers of the world, well heres some knews, that ain't going to happen, they tried the same bull with the vietnameese and whala, look they won.

The majority of the NATO (and the UN) peacekeepers are no longer the Americans. So this business about the Kosovo Albanians being puppets of the US goes out the window.

so just because the US isn't the majority, those signed deals that were made just go out the window do they?

gnostic, if you think you can tell me that i do not know whats happened there, please i'm listening say what you have to.

And beside that, do you preferred to remain a puppet for your Serb master? The Serbs who made you nothing more than 2nd citizens in your own country?

the serbs aren't the masters of the albanians, you've got that wrong.
well doesn't just about any country face that? look at what australia did in vietnam, for nothing, what did they do to you, did they or did they not do anything to australia? you think you have a right to kill people in their own country? you know i'll let you in on a little secret, when the US goes down so will their close allie, australia.

It is better for the Albanians to have no future of their own, and be killed by the death squads, whether the Serbian government don't like the way the Albanians think.

if the serbs had killed all the albanians i would go and give them my hand. no actually i would kiss their bloody feet. do you know that. i guess you didn't, badluck then.
we can deffend ourselves, we have our own muslim people who help us, no need for the US to stuff it's big nose in a narrow hole. same goes for australia.