PROVE ME WRONG... All religions are fake.

[johnsmithjohnsmith]

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[Jim]

Give me a religion and I will argue against it( at least a top practiced religion ...

I realize that since I said I wouldn't debate about my religion with you, maybe you haven't put up any arguments against it. Have you? I said that true religion is using some lore and writings to help you live a more fruitful and beneficial life. Did you intend your posts to me as arguments against that?

Why not live a more fruitful and beneficial life without religion? Why do you need religion? Is it because it makes you scared when you do a bad thing because then you think you will go to hell? Is it because it makes you want to do good things only for the purpose to having a perfect and eternal afterlife? Perhaps religion has been beneficial for interactions between local people throughout the years. But how many wars did religion cause? Uncountable probably. Why do you not want to live a fruitful and beneficial life just because you want to, just because you want to be a good person?

Interesting, however for me God means the creator of life which is clearly different from what you think it means (correct me if I am wrong). I want to believe in a God that actually made me and made the universe. I do not want a God as an imaginary friend that will guide me through life.

 

[shunyadragon]

The evidence is in the Bible, documented in "Intelligent Design: Message from the Designers by Rael." Free and anonymous at www.raelish.com.

There is no objective verifiable evidence for anything in the Bible.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

I realize that since I said I wouldn't debate about my religion with you, maybe you haven't put up any arguments against it. Have you? I said that true religion is using some lore and writings to help you live a more fruitful and beneficial life. Did you intend your posts to me as arguments against that?

For me a true religion is a religion that has a true god which created life.The point of this topic was to discuss the creator of life rather than the fruit of life.

 

[sealchan]

Insert arguments below
Name your religion and convince me that it is true

Fake on purpose or fake but sincerely believed in?
Scientific or moral truth?
A complete fabrication by hucksters or a natural impulse with psychological benefit?

 

[Jim]

For me a true religion is a religion that has a true god which created life.The point of this topic was to discuss the creator of life rather than the fruit of life.

What I'm saying is true religion, is people using some kinds of lore and writings to help them live more fruitful and beneficial lives. Some examples of the kinds of lore and scriptures that I mean are in the lore and scriptures of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. According to that lore and those scriptures, there is a true god which created life. So the religion which consists of people using that lore and those scriptures to help them live more fruitful and beneficial lives, has a true god which created life. What is missing, to make that a true religion?

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

What I'm saying is true religion, is a people using some kinds of lore and writings to help them live more fruitful and beneficial lives. Some examples of the kinds of lore and scriptures that I mean are in the lore and scriptures of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. According to that lore and those scriptures, there is a true god which created life. So the religion which consists of people using that lore and those scriptures to help them live more fruitful and beneficial lives, has a true god which created life. What is missing, to make that a true religion?

Ok so your point is irrelevant. Because I am looking for debates about which religion actually worships a god that exists

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Fake on purpose or fake but sincerely believed in?
Scientific or moral truth?
A complete fabrication by hucksters or a natural impulse with psychological benefit?

I want to know which religion worships a god that exists.

 

[dianaiad]

Did He...by any chance? Just as a matter of interest.

Well, Christians as a whole seem to think so.

 

[dianaiad]

See my previous posts

Your previous posts reflect your opinion of what God would be if He did exist, which is all well and good, but an opinion is not proof of a claim.

Your claim was "all religions are fake."

Your opinion of what God SHOULD be is not proof that all religions are fake. After all, there is absolutely no reason that God, should He actually exist, comply with your opinion. Indeed, given that a creator God (One Who creates universes) has a great deal on His/Her/It's plate, so to speak, I rather doubt that He gives two hoots about your opinion of the way He should be. I was forcibly reminded, when I read your post, of the idea of an ant telling his companion ant that humans don't exist because if they did, they would be giant purple trees. Since they aren't, then all other opinions about them are fake.

No, sir. Your claim was that all religions are fake. That's a big claim. Your opinion of what a 'true religion' about a 'real God' should be doesn't even provide evidence, much less proof, of that.

 

[Jim]

Ok so your point is irrelevant. Because I am looking for debates about which religion actually worships a god that exists

Do you mean, people using religious lore and scriptures to help them live better and more fruitful lives, are not practicing a religion; or do you mean that none of the people who do that are actually worshiping the god that you think exists, the one which created life?

 

[syo]

Insert arguments below
Name your religion and convince me that it is true

What was before time ''zero''? God. All religions are true.

 

[Jim]

Ok so your point is irrelevant. Because I am looking for debates about which religion actually worships a god that exists

If some people use Jewish, Christian or Muslim lore and scriptures to help them live more fruitful and beneficial lives, and they are thinking of the god in that lore and those scriptures as the creator of life, which is the god that you think exists, then what is missing for that to be a true religion?

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Your previous posts reflect your opinion of what God would be if He did exist, which is all well and good, but an opinion is not proof of a claim.

Your claim was "all religions are fake."

Your opinion of what God SHOULD be is not proof that all religions are fake. After all, there is absolutely no reason that God, should He actually exist, comply with your opinion. Indeed, given that a creator God (One Who creates universes) has a great deal on His/Her/It's plate, so to speak, I rather doubt that He gives two hoots about your opinion of the way He should be. I was forcibly reminded, when I read your post, of the idea of an ant telling his companion ant that humans don't exist because if they did, they would be giant purple trees. Since they aren't, then all other opinions about them are fake.

No, sir. Your claim was that all religions are fake. That's a big claim. Your opinion of what a 'true religion' about a 'real God' should be doesn't even provide evidence, much less proof, of that.

so the opinion of uneducated men from 2000 years ago is better with rapist misogynistic gods
The real answer is
WE DONT KNOW

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Do you mean, people using religious lore and scriptures to help them live better and more fruitful lives, are not practicing a religion; or do you mean that none of the people who do that are actually worshiping the god that you think exists, the one which created life?

It isnt that hard to understand really, I want to discuss how all of the religions are made up of things and a god that never existed.

 

[Aupmanyav]

I think that all religions are partly man-made, ..

And partly by an imaginary God, his son or messenger?

 

[exchemist]

I want to know which religion worships a god that exists.

You ought to know that this is a fruitless quest. It is famously not possible to either prove or disprove the existence of God.

But since it is you that is asserting religions are fake, it is up to you, as the one making the claim, to support it, not for others to justify a contrary position.

A good start might be for you to define what you mean by "fake", since religion performs a number of functions for its adherents, and people's individual beliefs seem to be highly idiosyncratic.

 

[shunyadragon]

Ok so your point is irrelevant. Because I am looking for debates about which religion actually worships a god that exists

How do you propose to determine a God that exists?

 

[Aupmanyav]

Jainism.

Jainism is a very nice religion for a few things, but its practices and philosophy have many holes. Have you studied about Jainism? Philosophically Buddhism scores over it and this was reflected in their popularity in ancient India.

How do you propose to determine a God that exists?

Help an amputee regrow his/her limbs.

 

[Holdasown]

were not you talking about the books and what is in them? And pretty sure you brought up the rape

Only monotheists (and not all of them) view their books as historical fact. Some faiths have on books. No. I didn't pervert.