Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
Right, because a spoof religion has equal weight to the real thing....
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Prove that humans aren't blind to God's existence
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little_monkey
atheist
Right, because a spoof religion has equal weight to the real thing....
Define the real thing.
Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
Right, because a spoof religion has equal weight to the real thing....
Actually, love, taken a certai way this has a lot of truth to it. Basically, the idea is that there are a lot of things I know nothing about, but that doesn't mean I need to investigate them. Equating a pink unicorn with Christianity might not fit your sensibilities, but anything could be inserted instead of the unicorn. I don't know much about physics, but I don't feel I need to investigate it.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
But you don't reject it, either.
mohammed_beiruti
Active Member
who told you that i have accepted islam without questions?
forget the Id Card of mine!:sad:
little_monkey
atheist
Right, because a spoof religion has equal weight to the real thing....
Define the real thing.
The real thing, in your case, it exists in your imagination. It is as real as the invisible pink unicorn.
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little_monkey
atheist
By quoting lines from a book that is full of nonsense. Obviously, you believe in that. Sorry, I don't.
I have pointed to you why you believe in that -- brainwashing -- which you have conveniently avoided to address.
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Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Just hanging out and using the ordinary approach that I use to live my life in all other areas. I don't not believe that I can, or believe that I can, either way. My mind is open.
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Only Christianity? Why that particular belief system? Do you apply this to yourself? Have you explored all other belief systems as they really are? How much time have you spent meditating? Being open to revelation from Krishna? Or doing anything else you're asking me to do for just one religion? Hypocritical much?
Do you see what a nifty, self-confirming, circular system you've got here? Everyone who agrees with you is right. Everyone who doesn't is stubborn and unwilling to explore Christianity as it really is. Anyone can play this game. I'm not calling you a liar, just a delusional idiot unwilling to deal with reality as it really is. Fun, eh?
Here's your problem, toms. Let's say, just as a thought experiment, that I'm completely nuts. I suffer auditory and visual hallucinations that cause me to see space aliens all around us, and they're as real to me as everything else. Let's say I want to check if they're real or a hallucination, so I ask someone else, and they say they don't see anything. Well, I say to myself, the space aliens have controlled that person's brain so they're invisible to him. Or, they're in on the plot, and do see them, but are lying to me as part of their evil scheme. Or, they don't know how to look right and see what's really there. I now have created a neat system in which it is impossible for me to check whether what I'm seeing is real or just a hallucination. Sound familiar?
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Do you always assume that people who disagree with you are ignorant? btw, how much do you know about Zoroastrianism? Doesn't it seem odd to reject it then, under your logic?
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Exactly. That's the point.Right, because a spoof religion has equal weight to the real thing....
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
No meditation or anything? You're just waiting for theophany? The problem with that is that intense theophany is rather rare.
I would suggest (if you're really interested) in trying some Buddhist meditations. They seem to be the most reliable. Of course, if you're not interested, that's ok, too.
Could you explain the point? I seem to have missed it.
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
I do sometimes meditate, but it doesn't seem to have anything to do with God.
No, I'm not waiting for anything in particular. I just live my life and do my best to figure it out in the same way I try to figure other things out.
I love Buddhist meditation. You're right, I should try to incorporate it into my life more as a regular practice. But for me it hasn't done anything about the God that toms is talking about. It does help increase my awareness that I am but a part of the universe, related to every living thing.
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
That there is no relevant distinction between some religious belief systems and a spoof.
little_monkey
atheist
I disagree. Believing in a spoof is far superior to believing in a religious system.
For instance, believing in Santa Claus is way better than believing in the Christian God of the bible.
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What is the difference?
little_monkey
atheist
Santa is nice, every Christmas, he gives gifts to deserving children. OTOH, the Christian God of the Bible is mean and vindictive. Just look at what he did to Sodom and Gomorrah, then the flood, killing trillions of living creatures. To any reasonable person, Santa is wayyyy better...