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Public School Bible Class: Imagine Adam Crawling up the Back of a Dinosaur

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Well, for starters, it says birds were created before land animals, which is demonstrably wrong. Next, it says humans were created in a similar time-frame to other, contemporary animals, which is demonstrably wrong. And it says that the sun, moon and stars formed after plants and oceans, which is demonstrably wrong.

Keep in mind he was creating Heaven and Earth. Some of the things are created for heaven. Like he said let there be light. Then separated the light and darkness. We live on the dark side, with the sun for light.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
You didn't get what I was saying. They could have lived indefinitely before they sinned, and could have been a few hundred thousand years old. But when they sinned, death entered the world, they became mortal, at that point their days were numbered to 1,000 years.
No human has ever lived for hundreds of years and dinosaurs and humans did not co-exist. The average human lifespan in ancient times was 30-40 years, at the best. That is reality and non-debatable.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Keep in mind he was creating Heaven and Earth. Some of the things are created for heaven. Like he said let there be light. Then separated the light and darkness. We live on the dark side, with the sun for light.
How does this refute a single thing I said? Are you suggesting that what the Bible said happens isn't what actually happened?
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Regarding the OP, that is disgusting and I feel bad for the kids being brainwashed into that nonsense. It should be stopped immediately. Maybe those regions would actually get something done and stop being so damn ***-backwards and poor if they would put the conservative religious Kool-Aid down for a minute. Teach the children science and philosophy - and other, actually useful things - instead of literalist Biblical bull****. Then the children would actually have the tools to grow up and pull their communities out of white trash poverty, unlike their stupid parents and the predatory pastors feeding them lies.
 
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ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
I don't see the problem, I think you're just splitting hairs.
The Bible says birds were created before land animals - that isn't true. The Bible says that early humans were formed alongside all other contemporary species - that isn't true. The Bible says that the sun and stars were formed after the oceans and plants - that isn't true.

There is no splitting of hairs. These are the things the Bible says, and they are demonstrably false. Do you accept that?
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
The Bible says birds were created before land animals - that isn't true. The Bible says that early humans were formed alongside all other contemporary species - that isn't true. The Bible says that the sun and stars were formed after the oceans and plants - that isn't true.

There is no splitting of hairs. These are the things the Bible says, and they are demonstrably false. Do you accept that?

No, i wasn't there. If you're going by what science says happened I guess you've chosen your side. Tell me what demonstrates it to be false.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
No, i wasn't there.
Yet you believe the Bible, for no good reason.

If you're going by what science says happened I guess you've chosen your side. Tell me what demonstrates it to be false.
Earliest bird: archaeopteryx, 150 million years ago. (Archaeopteryx - Wikipedia)
Earliest land animal: pneumodesmus, 428 million years ago. (Pneumodesmus - Wikipedia)
Earliest homo sapiens: around 200 thousands years ago. (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/02/050223122209.htm)
Sun's and stars age: 4.6 billion years. (Stellar age estimation - Wikipedia)
Earliest plants: 470 million years ago. (First land plants plunged Earth into ice age)
Formation of the oceans: 3.8 billion years ago. (Why do we have oceans?)
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Yet you believe the Bible, for no good reason.


Earliest bird: archaeopteryx, 150 million years ago. (Archaeopteryx - Wikipedia)
Earliest land animal: pneumodesmus, 428 million years ago. (Pneumodesmus - Wikipedia)
Earliest homo sapiens: around 200 thousands years ago. (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/02/050223122209.htm)
Sun's and stars age: 4.6 billion years. (Stellar age estimation - Wikipedia)
Earliest plants: 470 million years ago. (First land plants plunged Earth into ice age)
Formation of the oceans: 3.8 billion years ago. (Why do we have oceans?)

You give up on God over a fossilized slug alleged to have lived 428 million years ago. To each their own...
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
You give up on God over a fossilized slug alleged to have lived 428 million years ago. To each their own...
You are the one who said that the Bible "held up". But now, according to you, it only "holds up" if you ignore all the facts and just believe it to be true regardless.

That's not "holding up". That's blind faith.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
You give up on God over a fossilized slug alleged to have lived 428 million years ago. To each their own...

Except that the concept of god and the theory of evolution are not mutually exclusive, and belief in god does not require belief in literal interpretations of ancient creation fables (which originated from primitive morals).
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Regarding the OP, that is disgusting and I feel bad for the kids being brainwashed into that nonsense. It should be stopped immediately. Maybe those regions would actually get something done and stop being so damn ***-backwards and poor if they would put the conservative religious Kool-Aid down for a minute. Teach the children science and philosophy - and other, actually useful things - instead of literalist Biblical bull****. Then the children would actually have the tools to grow up and pull their communities out of white trash poverty, unlike their stupid parents and the predatory pastors feeding them lies.
As in "they should be brainwashed into thinking like you think"? With three children that I had no teenage problems to speak of and now all three are enjoying great marriages with children that are giving them no problems, I say "keep the brain-washing going because much of the minds today need some cleaning up"!!!!!
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Except that the concept of god and the theory of evolution are not mutually exclusive, and belief in god does not require belief in literal interpretations of ancient creation fables (which originated from primitive morals).
You mean like the fable of Haeckel's embryonic drawing that were taught in biology classes even when they had already been proven false?

How fudged embryo illustrations led to drawn-out lies
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
As in "they should be brainwashed into thinking like you think"? With three children that I had no teenage problems to speak of and now all three are enjoying great marriages with children that are giving them no problems, I say "keep the brain-washing going because much of the minds today need some cleaning up"!!!!!
What does that have to do with teaching kids that the Bible is true and that dinosaurs and humans lived together, in public schools?
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
What does that have to do with teaching kids that the Bible is true and that dinosaurs and humans lived together, in public schools?
In a club, you can teach whatever you want. You have Satanist clubs, LGBT clubs, Bible Clubs, political clubs... It is the parents right to exercise their given liberties.

I wouldn't agree with some of the clubs that are there and what they are teaching but the parent has every right to do so. If they don't like it, they can take their child out of the club.

They may weigh the benefits of the Bible keeping their children washed in their thinking while dealing with the dinosaur issue at home.

Any child will get their archaeological (dinosaurs) information during their public schoolings. They are smart enough to make logical conclusions.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
I think its a scam. It caught my eye because I worked in Trenton which is in mercer county New Jersey. It is also a neighbor of Princeton which is also mentioned in the article. I googled Mercer county West Virginia and only come up with Mercer County New Jersey which as I said both Trenton and Princeton exist. I could be wrong but it is quite a coincidence.

Mercer County, West Virginia - Wikipedia

Trenton, as the article specifies, is a student there.

An interesting example of the fallibility of human pattern recognition - particularly, when not supported by attention to detail and fact/assumption-checking.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
Mercer County, West Virginia - Wikipedia

Trenton, as the article specifies, is a student there.

An interesting example of the fallibility of human pattern recognition - particularly, when not supported by attention to detail and fact/assumption-checking.

I googled it perhaps because of my location all I got was Mercer county NJ. I also knew that it was a students name. It just seemed to me to be quite a coincidence, which it turns out it is. I worked in Trenton in Mercer county and visited Princeton quite regularly. I googled Mercer County West Virginia but kept getting Mercer County, NJ. It probably has to do with how google posts searched Items (I live in New Jersey) and if I scrolled down I would have found Mercer County, West Virginia but yes I am fallible. You were able to correct it Thanks.
 

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
It could also be true, there were no human fossils because humans did not die. Just like the Bible says.

Really? Did not die? So the announcement of Able's death was just propaganda, and like Elvis, did not actually die?

Obviously, it was all just a Publicity Stunt to discredit Cain-- who was forced to marry? A non-human?
 

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
You give up on God over a fossilized slug alleged to have lived 428 million years ago. To each their own...

No--- I gave up on god mainly do to the existence of God-Preventable Atrocities, such as cancer in kids, or death of infants due to no-rainfall starvation.

And please don't insult my intelligence by claiming "original sin" or other nonsense: is it ethical to punish the innocent for the alleged actions of people born centuries before?

If I, as a mere human, can see the IMMORALITY of such actions-- how much more evil is it, when a supposedly DIVINE BEING does it!
 
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