Public School Bible Class: Imagine Adam Crawling up the Back of a Dinosaur

[Kenny]

No--- I gave up on god mainly do to the existence of God-Preventable Atrocities, such as cancer in kids, or death of infants due to no-rainfall starvation.
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This would be true if your understanding of God and man were as you view it. IF we were to look at it biblically within a Christian understanding, your viewpoint would be wrong.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

This would be true if your understanding of God and man were as you view it. IF we were to look at it biblically within a Christian understanding, your viewpoint would be wrong.

How?

Fair is fair-- even toddlers understand basic fairness-- and the bible's message?

Is anything BUT fair! We are supposedly cursed for something we had nothing to do with!

Infant babies die-- every day-- because this "god" of yours absolutely refuses to act! Not because of anything the babies did-- or even their parents!

No-- your claim of "Yew Jest Dun Unnerstan' Gawd" simply does not hold up!

I, as a mere mortal, can see Atrocity in the world-- and I can quite imagine things *I* would do, were I god for a day.

I bet you can think of similar things....


.... now. My point: You worship a god who absolutely refuses to act.


Not much of a ... ahem.... "god"....

 

[Kenny]

How?

Fair is fair-- even toddlers understand basic fairness-- and the bible's message?

Is anything BUT fair! We are supposedly cursed for something we had nothing to do with!

Infant babies die-- every day-- because this "god" of yours absolutely refuses to act! Not because of anything the babies did-- or even their parents!

No-- your claim of "Yew Jest Dun Unnerstan' Gawd" simply does not hold up!

I, as a mere mortal, can see Atrocity in the world-- and I can quite imagine things *I* would do, were I god for a day.

I bet you can think of similar things....


.... now. My point: You worship a god who absolutely refuses to act.


Not much of a ... ahem.... "god"....

Again... I'm certainly against all the atrocities, but in light of the word of God from the very beginning (and by what man is even doing today), we certainly can't blame God.

I certainly understand your position against the horrible things in this world for I have felt that way too, but I have also found that God will work if you let Him. If you have children, you would know that even though you don't want them to be hurt or to hurt someone, you just can't stop them.

When I decided to LET Him, He acts. Ball's in our courts.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

In a club, you can teach whatever you want. You have Satanist clubs, LGBT clubs, Bible Clubs, political clubs... It is the parents right to exercise their given liberties.

I wouldn't agree with some of the clubs that are there and what they are teaching but the parent has every right to do so. If they don't like it, they can take their child out of the club.

They may weigh the benefits of the Bible keeping their children washed in their thinking while dealing with the dinosaur issue at home.

Any child will get their archaeological (dinosaurs) information during their public schoolings. They are smart enough to make logical conclusions.

Again, the problem is this being taught in a public school during class time, to young children, as if it were fact.

 

[Kenny]

Again, the problem is this being taught in a public school during class time, to young children, as if it were fact.

Again, that is not a problem... please note:

The program is not mandatory, but almost every child in the district attends. And there is widespread support for the classes: Parents and community members help raise nearly $500,000 a year to pay for the Bible in the Schools program.

1) It is not mandatory
2) The parents support the classes
3) The parents raise 500,000 a year to pay for the classes.

Let freedom really be free and not according to the dictates of the few.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Again, that is not a problem... please note:



1) It is not mandatory
2) The parents support the classes
3) The parents raise 500,000 a year to pay for the classes.

Let freedom really be free and not according to the dictates of the few.

I don't care if the parents support it. It's unconstitutional to be promoting religion in public schools during class time. Doesn't matter if it's mandatory or not, either.

The law is to protect "the few", not cow-tow to the whims of the majority.

 

[Kenny]

I don't care if the parents support it. It's unconstitutional to be promoting religion in public schools during class time. Doesn't matter if it's mandatory or not, either.

The law is to protect "the few", not cow-tow to the whims of the majority.

Apparently, you are wrong with your stance in the Constitution. Seems like it is flourishing in our area too. 20+ elementary schools.

The Declaration of Independence had it right too:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

I prefer freedom to your dictatorial style of looking at it. The law is also to protect "the majority" from the dictators of the few.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Apparently, you are wrong with your stance in the Constitution. Seems like it is flourishing in our area too. 20+ elementary schools.

The Declaration of Independence had it right too:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

I prefer freedom to your dictatorial style of looking at it.

Go whine to the courts and Constitutional scholars about it. I don't care. The law is the law and it's a pretty good one, at that. If they want their kids indoctrinated with such crap, that's what Sunday school is for.

 

[Skwim]

1) It is not mandatory
2) The parents support the classes
3) The parents raise 500,000 a year to pay for the classes.

So what?

Let freedom really be free and not according to the dictates of the few.

In other words; Might makes right. To be really free the majority should always get to tell the minority how to behave: Go stand in the back of the bus.

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[Kenny]

Go whine to the courts and Constitutional scholars about it. I don't care. The law is the law and it's a pretty good one, at that. If they want their kids indoctrinated with such crap, that's what Sunday school is for.

And, apparently, you are wrong. Why not just follow the law and quite whining.

 

[Kenny]

So what?


In other words; Might makes right. To be really free the majority should always get to tell the minority how to behave: Go stand in the back of the bus.

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Well... certainly it isn't the dictatorial few that should tell people what they should believe and when they should believe it.

 

[Kenny]

My... aren't people getting irritable here.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

And, apparently, you are wrong. Why not just follow the law and quite whining.

How am I wrong?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

My... aren't people getting irritable here.

I find stupidity and brainwashing of helpless children with complete nonsense to be infuriating and I won't apologize for it.

 

[Kenny]

I find stupidity and brainwashing of helpless children with complete nonsense to be infuriating and I won't apologize for it.

So we are back to square one...

Its the parents right to rear their children and not according to your philosophy.
They children WOULD be helpless if you were in charge of their lives.

But then again... they did persecute Jesus too.

Before you know it, you'll be saying "CRUCIFY THOSE PARENTS".

And as I said before, what you called nonsense saved my marriage, saved my three children from going through the world's trash that they dish out, gave them beautiful spouses and their children are going the same route.

I think more brains need to be washed IHMO.

Jesus did say "You are clean by my word". Translated "He washed their brains".

 

[Flame]

As long as the parents are paying for it and its strictly non-mandatory with other optional classes to fill in the spaces from not taking it (They don't go figure ). Hey as an added bonus if someone wanted to open up a class about Islamic, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, ect without the school throwing a fit then even better.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

So we are back to square one...

Its the parents right to rear their children and not according to your philosophy.
They children WOULD be helpless if you were in charge of their lives.

But then again... they did persecute Jesus too.

Before you know it, you'll be saying "CRUCIFY THOSE PARENTS".

And as I said before, what you called nonsense saved my marriage, saved my three children from going through the world's trash that they dish out, gave them beautiful spouses and their children are going the same route.

I think more brains need to be washed IHMO.

Jesus did say "You are clean by my word". Translated "He washed their brains".

Nice whining but you're still dodging the fact that I'm talking about public schools and religious promotion during school hours.

 

[Kenny]

Nice whining but you're still dodging the fact that I'm talking about public schools and religious promotion during school hours.

And, again, apparently it is approved and the courts don't mind. So be an obedient citizen and........ just live with it.

If they say they can't, I will live with it too and have it after school.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

And, again, apparently it is approved and the courts don't mind. So be an obedient citizen and........ just live with it.

If they say they can't, I will live with it too and have it after school.

Or have it outside of school and at your church. Duh.

 

[Kenny]

As long as the parents are paying for it and its strictly non-mandatory with other optional classes to fill in the spaces from not taking it (They don't go figure ). Hey as an added bonus if someone wanted to open up a class about Islamic, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, ect without the school throwing a fit then even better.

Logical, sane and a good example of freedom.