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Putin said he supports Harris in the 2024 election.

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
That's not true. I speak to Russians all the time...and they told me that it was the Americans that deemed Russia as the enemy because it was spreading the poison called Socialism.
And Americans repel Socialism.

That's not true. I speak to Americans all the time...and they told me that it was the Soviets that deemed America as the enemy because it was spreading the poison called Capitalism.
And Soviets repel Capitalism.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
That's not true. I speak to Americans all the time...and they told me that it was the Soviets that deemed America as the enemy because it was spreading the poison called Capitalism.
And Soviets repel Capitalism.
But now that Russia has become capitalistic....this narrative doesn't work any more.
:)


I don't side with Russia. I side with the EU. If I sided with Russians, I would want Ukraine to be conquered by Russia.
No I want Ukraine to become a member of the EU.

You guys should understand that there are EU interests too. Not only American or Russian interests.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Here's what I think about Ukraine. I do think it's their own business. but I also don't want us or anyone else to let Putin off the hook so to speak. So it's a pretty delicate balance.
Shouldn't Israel deal with their own business as well? Isn't it kind of messed up how we pay for their universal healthcare while we don't have it ourselves?
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
But now that Russia has become capitalistic....this narrative doesn't work any more.
:)
Exactly, so why are you following it?
I don't side with Russia. I side with the EU. If I sided with Russians, I would want Ukraine to be conquered by Russia.
No I want Ukraine to become a member of the EU.
You're contradicting yourself. Is this a form of Italian humor?
You guys should understand that there are EU interests too. Not only American or Russian interests.
No ****. Ukraine's victory is in EU's interests. I never said anything about American interests. I only factored the ethicality of the situation.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Exactly, so why are you following it?

You're contradicting yourself. Is this a form of Italian humor?

No ****. Ukraine's victory is in EU's interests. I never said anything about American interests. I only factored the ethicality of the situation.
So Americans love Europeans, right?
;)
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Exactly, so why are you following it?

You're contradicting yourself. Is this a form of Italian humor?
First Ukraine must make peace with Russia.
Then Ukraine joins the EU.
No ****. Ukraine's victory is in EU's interests. I never said anything about American interests. I only factored the ethicality of the situation.
No... it's not in our interests, because the war can also last 20 years...so peace is in our interests.
So Australians love Asians, right?
;)
You don't answer. I repeat the question: do you Americans care about us Europeans?
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
First Ukraine must make peace with Russia.
Since It was Russia who invaded, they should make peace and repreparations,

Then Ukraine joins the EU.

No... it's not in our interests, because the war can also last 20 years...so peace is in our interests.
Making concessions to tyrants and terrorists sets bad precedents that endanger the free world.
You don't answer. I repeat the question: do you Americans care about us Europeans?
I would like to think that most Americans care about humanity in general. Do Italians?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Since It was Russia who invaded, they should make peace and repreparations,


Making concessions to tyrants and terrorists sets bad precedents that endanger the free world.

I would like to think that most Americans care about humanity in general. Do Italians?
Perfect. Because a nuclear war threatens Europe...so a de-escalation is needed. :)
Yes, us too.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Shouldn't Israel deal with their own business as well? Isn't it kind of messed up how we pay for their universal healthcare while we don't have it ourselves?
I think both scenarios are a little ridiculous to be completely honest.
 

Whateverist

Active Member
I am not a lesbian.

Didn’t think you were. Just a bit of stand up humor. Then you haven’t stopped?

“A complex question, trick question, multiple question, fallacy of presupposition, or plurium interrogationum (Latin, 'of many questions') is a question that has a complex presupposition. The presupposition is a proposition that is presumed to be acceptable to the respondent when the question is asked. The respondent becomes committed to this proposition when they give any direct answer. When a presupposition includes an admission of wrongdoing, it is called a "loaded question" and is a form of entrapment in legal trials or debates. The presupposition is called "complex" if it is a conjunctiveproposition, a disjunctive proposition, or a conditional proposition. It could also be another type of proposition that contains some logical connective in a way that makes it have several parts that are component propositions.[1]

 
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TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Yeah, they learned not to follow criminal and corrupt leaders like putin. Now Russian citizens need to learn what Germans and Italians did and elect sane leadership.


The problem with that, is that such requires free and fair elections... You know, where the opposition isn't jailed and / or poisoned.
 
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