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Questions about Islam

gsa

Well-Known Member
Yes God is omniscient on what is in your thought and my thought and for the events which is programmed by him.

For example the programer of a video game is omniscient about the events and the movements in his programmed game but he has no knowledge of how you'll play, but the difference is that God is able to change the events if he wished so and he is omnipotent over everything in this universe.

So if he wanted to, he could design a universe without evil, where everyone selected good options, not evil ones. But he doesn't, because "free will."
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
Well history suggests otherwise. Also the fact that the punishment for leaving the faith is death penalty disproves that.

Can you show me a glimpse of that history as I don't seem to be aware of it.

The punishment for apostasy is completely irrelevant. Islam has prescribed punishments for certain crimes. It is only after one becomes a Muslim that these punishments apply. It's like this free speech thing where people make false and baseless accusations yet provide no proof and the innocent person is obligated to provided evidence against something that doesn't exist. Islam does not allow this and punishes such a crime. It can't be said that it is forcing people into anything. It has rules and regulations, which again only apply to Muslims. Islam doesn't force people to convert, it prohibits it. However, it does have laws which affect those who are Muslims and then do something against it's teachings, just like any government which punishes it's citizens against what it identifies as crimes.
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
Can you show me a glimpse of that history as I don't seem to be aware of it.

The punishment for apostasy is completely irrelevant. Islam has prescribed punishments for certain crimes. It is only after one becomes a Muslim that these punishments apply. It's like this free speech thing where people make false and baseless accusations yet provide no proof and the innocent person is obligated to provided evidence against something that doesn't exist. Islam does not allow this and punishes such a crime. It can't be said that it is forcing people into anything. It has rules and regulations, which again only apply to Muslims. Islam doesn't force people to convert, it prohibits it. However, it does have laws which affect those who are Muslims and then do something against it's teachings, just like any government which punishes it's citizens against what it identifies as crimes.

Yeeeeah, if that is the case then ISIS has some messed up logic then. So again. . . why is it in ahadith Muhammad killed Asma Marwaan? Was she a Muslim? Seems rather vengeful.
Perhaps this is why the hadith is mysteriously deemed weak :rolleyes:
 

RAYYAN

Proud Muslim
Just because you're incapable of understanding it doesn't make it illogical. It simply means you don't have the intellectual capacity to understand basic logic. And that subconsciously you're threatened by the questions any child would ask, but you don't because you're brainwashed.
But I didn't say your statement is illogical, what I said was, You didn't stick to the topic because you don't have a logical answer for it. looks like you have reading problems
 

RAYYAN

Proud Muslim
It's because you're ignorant of the world, quite frankly. The vase majority of Muslims are either brainwashed or ignorant or uneducated. Also many Muslims ignore the bad parts of the Quran, while cherry picking only the good. It doesn't mean that they're bad people, but the religion itself isn't the best.

I've given several examples of countries which are no different from terrorist states and organizations. Saudi Arabia, Iran and Pakistan come to mind. All of these three have come about their fundamentalism without much U.S. intervention. Saudi Arabia regularly beheads people, recently they beheaded a Burmese woman while she screamed she's innocent.
I don't ignore what you call bad parts of the Quran. We have gone through this few months ago, but show me what are the bad parts and I will show you your understanding of it is wrong and they are not really bad.

basically, your post is childish. do you eat baby food too?
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I don't ignore what you call bad parts of the Quran. We have gone through this few months ago, but show me what are the bad parts and I will show you your understanding of it is wrong and they are not really bad.

basically, your post is childish. do you eat baby food too?

Quran 3:32 – “Obey Allah and the Messenger (Muhammad); but if they turn away, then indeed, Allah does not love the disbelievers.”


Quran 48:29 – “Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful amongst themselves.”

Quran 4:24 – “And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hand possess.”


Quran 5:33 – “Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment.”

Quran 9:5 – “And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.”


Quran 9:29 – “Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.”



Qruan 9:73 – “O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination.”



Quran 9:111 – “Indeed, Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties [in exchange] for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah , so they kill and are killed.”



Quran 47:35 – “So do not weaken and call for peace while you are superior; and Allah is with you and will never deprive you of [the reward of] your deeds.”


Quran 2:106 – “We do not abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten except that We bring forth [one] better than it or similar to it. Do you not know that Allah is over all things competent?”

Considering the extreme nature of these verses, it would seem redundant to claim that ISIS are extremists of Islam, while they actually interpret the quranic commands as literally as possible, resurrecting the barbaric leadership of their prophet Muhammad.

Still, Muslims who choose to follow the abrogated commands of Allah are out-dated, choosey, and, according to the Quran 9:73, hypocritical. While debating that ISIS fighters are truly representing Islam in its purest form doesn’t solve the crisis, it is the first step to acknowledging that Islam is the problem and will always breed terror.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
you are cute ,nice picture of signature
((hugs))
The things you say are cute.
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Spiderman

Veteran Member
I love kids , today i filmed a very cute little girl , looks like that boy .
When i have a good Internet connection i will upload .
EDIT* cool, and if you ever want to talk via phone ill get a phone card, I like the Arabic accent. I'll ask blessed Mary of Jesus to pray for you.
She is my favorite saint:
Peace be upon her

Edit: she received the stigmata (wounds of Christ) but she thought it was an illness.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
EDIT* cool, and if you ever want to talk via phone ill get a phone card, I like the Arabic accent. I'll ask blessed Mary of Jesus to pray for you.
She is my favorite saint:
Peace be upon her

Edit: she received the stigmata (wounds of Christ) but she thought it was an illness.

You want to hear my Arabic accent by phone?

We love Marry (pbuh) and Jesus (pbuh) .

there is part in Quran called "Marriam" (Marry ) .
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
You want to hear my Arabic accent by phone?

We love Marry (pbuh) and Jesus (pbuh) .

there is part in Quran called "Marriam" (Marry ) .
Oh I Like to talk via phone with people because online you cannot hear a person's tone and words can bless people lol :p
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Quran 3:32 – “Obey Allah and the Messenger (Muhammad); but if they turn away, then indeed, Allah does not love the disbelievers.”


Quran 48:29 – “Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful amongst themselves.”

Quran 4:24 – “And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hand possess.”


Quran 5:33 – “Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment.”

Quran 9:5 – “And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.”


Quran 9:29 – “Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.”



Qruan 9:73 – “O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination.”



Quran 9:111 – “Indeed, Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties [in exchange] for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah , so they kill and are killed.”



Quran 47:35 – “So do not weaken and call for peace while you are superior; and Allah is with you and will never deprive you of [the reward of] your deeds.”


Quran 2:106 – “We do not abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten except that We bring forth [one] better than it or similar to it. Do you not know that Allah is over all things competent?”

Considering the extreme nature of these verses, it would seem redundant to claim that ISIS are extremists of Islam, while they actually interpret the quranic commands as literally as possible, resurrecting the barbaric leadership of their prophet Muhammad.

Still, Muslims who choose to follow the abrogated commands of Allah are out-dated, choosey, and, according to the Quran 9:73, hypocritical. While debating that ISIS fighters are truly representing Islam in its purest form doesn’t solve the crisis, it is the first step to acknowledging that Islam is the problem and will always breed terror.
Hello again MS ;
i discover that you badly misquote Quran ,maybe you don't know that you just used war situation verses as argument against Islam !!!

Islam not problem maybe some Muslims, and of course the involve of West is main problem , which creat the space of civil war and terror in Muslim world (Iraq,Syria, Libya, Afghnistan) .



Christians Arabs used the word Allah , Allah is name fo creator that we used , and English you used "God" , which had NO relate with original names of OT or NT .

edited typo error
 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
Considering the extreme nature of these verses, it would seem redundant to claim that ISIS are extremists of Islam, while they actually interpret the quranic commands as literally as possible..

I don't think that you should become a Muslim, if you continue to think in that way..

Quoting lots of verses out of context (probably copy&paste from some web-site or other) is not going to help you learn the truth about Almighty God.

It's possible by quoting out of context to infer any meaning you wish .. the same goes for the Bible ..
DON'T DO IT!! .. unless you wish to displease Almighty God by misleading others through lack of knowledge or impure intentions
 
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