He doesn't know what it's like not to know something.
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Questions for God
- Thread starter blü 2
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Why do you assume God knows? With what apparatus would God know?
dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
I'm not sure you read my answer. The answer is, there is nothing which is objective nor subjective that is unknown, and, God is creating absolutely everything, which means there is no opportunity for anything to be outside of this knowledge.
It's not a very clearly written question. This is how I am interpretting it; please confirm.
"How does God know that there is not anything which it does not know?"
OR
"How does God know that there is not a corner of reality which is beyond its purview?"
OR
"How does God know that God, itself, is omniscient?"
Did I correctly interpret the question?
Credible? I refer you back to my original reply.
It's only credible if scripture is deemed credible. If not, then, I can't help you.
The verses I brought are clear. I did link to another thread to save myself some time. Did you click the link and read what was written there? Did you read the additional verse that I brought?
I certainly did not dismiss nor evade. Would you like me to post those verses again? I can probably make them even more clear for you, but, if you won't read them, there's no reason to put in the effort.
The verses I brought describe an omniscient God. At this point I doubt that you read what I provided.
dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
God created the feeling "what it's like to not know something". That means God knows that feeling, just the same as any author who has created anything.
Example: Frank Herbert knows what is like to use the "Voice", a Bene Geserit manipulative mind control technique, because he created it eventhough he's never actually used it himself.
dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
I provided an answer.
It might be foolish to expect any of the atheist members of this forum to admit that their omniscience-paradox has been defeated. The atheist culture here does not fairly acknoweldge when their theological objections are undermined.
dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
And without listening to the answer, then you are garaunteed to remain comfortable in your ign-theism/atheism... ( however you are identifying yourself these days )
dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
Unless God expresses itself and reveals certain aspects. Those aspects can be known and understood unless God is a liar.
dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
Please note: Hindu god-concepts are excluded from the discussion.
dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
This is probably why you don't read or consider the verses I've brought. You consider yourself an expert, right? And because of that, you do not consider any scripture that I've brought? You skip over it becausse you imagine yourself as an expert who has already "looked quite hard at the bible."
Blu, if you ask a question about the God of the bible, you'll need to read the answers that are coming from the bible. Just because you think you've already "looked quite hard at the bible" doesn't mean the answers aren't there and you didn't miss it.
If you don't consider God omniscient, then you certainly are not either. That includes not knowing all there is in the bible eventhough "you've looked hard at it."
dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
It's there, in the bible. Part of that defintion is omniscience. You need to read the bible and/or listen to those of us who study it if you would like answers to your questions.
Bear Wild
Well-Known Member
Would this also apply to other gods such as Odin of the Dagda?
Maninthemiddle
Active Member
But he never has.
Maninthemiddle
Active Member
It doesn’t matter what anyone says, each individual has a perception of God.
No one has seen him so it’s all speculation.
But clearly we've confirmed his gender.
Omniscience is claimed for the Bible God.
Things you don't know stand between you and omniscience.
How do you know ─ and how does God know ─ that your statement is correct? Your reply is merely a re-assertion of God's omniscience. It doesn't explain how God knows there's nothing [he] doesn't know [he] doesn't know.
I'd say your first statement covers the other two.
Logic doesn't come into it?
They don't suffice to explain what I'm asking. They merely assert.
Since the question is addressed to the bible God, that seems reasonable.
(I'm not aware that omniscience is claimed for any of them, rather wisdom. Perhaps someone could clarify the point. )
If the claim is that Odin (&c) is omniscient, then Odin needs to answer that question ─ as do any others for whom omniscience is claimed.
But that doesn't address the question of God's ability to be omniscient.
dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
That you know of.
Certainly not seen God in total. But you are engaging in speculation of your own by assuming about everyone for all time in all areas.