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I really don't know. Of course i don't support hurting the innocents who had nothing to do with the burning, like in Afghanistan for example. They have nothing to do with this, but the anger will be too hot for sensibility and thinking.
The love for God, The quran and Mohammad (PBUH) is huge for Muslims.
I can seriously tell you that to us this is like the killing of your Family in public infront of your eyes. It is that sensitive to us. Considering that, what will be the best approach.
Did you watch Law Abiding Citizen ? ... His reaction was extreme, but i was 100% with what he did to the two criminals that killed his family, until he started killing the innocent.
What are you talking about?You cannot insult people, slap them in the face, hurt their children and when they retaliate, you call them violent and anti-freedom.
Give me a break.
You cannot insult people, slap them in the face, hurt their children and when they retaliate, you call them violent and anti-freedom.
Give me a break.
You cannot insult people, slap them in the face, hurt their children and when they retaliate, you call them violent and anti-freedom.
Give me a break.
But no one is being physically slapped in the face, and in no way is anyone's children being harmed, so don't try to draw those silly analogies. There is nothing wrong with exchanging heated words or gestures as long as neither side actually violates the rights of the other. Of course, the most sensible course of action is to simply ignore them. I'm sure Allah and his prophet, along with your faith in them, will manage to survive a pile of cloth and paper going up in smoke.
For us (many of us) at least, the feeling is the same. With this analogy i'm trying to give you an idea of what it feels like.
I really don't know. Of course i don't support hurting the innocents who had nothing to do with the burning, like in Afghanistan for example. They have nothing to do with this, but the anger will be too hot for sensibility and thinking.
The love for God, The quran and Mohammad (PBUH) is huge for Muslims.
I can seriously tell you that to us this is like the killing of your Family in public infront of your eyes. It is that sensitive to us. Considering that, what will be the best approach.
Did you watch Law Abiding Citizen ? ... His reaction was extreme, but i was 100% with what he did to the two criminals that killed his family, until he started killing the innocent.
Then I suggest you best get over it.For us (many of us) at least, the feeling is the same. With this analogy i'm trying to give you an idea of what it feels like.
i can understand being insulted when sacred scripture is spat upon or burnt
but what i don't understand is the retaliation for such an act
isn't "allah" or "god" bigger than all that, do you really think this supreme being is insulted by this ignorant act from a mere mortal
For us (many of us) at least, the feeling is the same. With this analogy i'm trying to give you an idea of what it feels like.
God is beyond it, our ego isn't
Then I suggest you best get over it.
Any retaliation for what someone does to their own property, no matter how one regards it, is very likely against the law. And, perhaps a person might want to seek professional help if they're this wedded to a physical object. IMO it's just not a healthy frame of mind . . . IMO.
Jones has every right to burn his copy of the Koran, the Bible, or even an issue of National Geographic. That others get their panties in a bunch over it suggests a serious irrationality that begs ministration. But then religious belief has never operated on rationality, so the Muslim over reaction is understandable. Not reasonable, just understandable.
Just to re-assure that harming any innocent not involved in this is not right and not acceptable by Islam or Muslims. I'm not defending harming innocents.
Ignoring this action is not easy for us, you guys are really underestimating what Islam means to a muslim.
you are calling this anger as irrational based on what ? your own norms and culture!. We do not consider your rationality to be the judge on us. The US is willing to wage wars for "Freedom", right? is that more rational than religion ?! Maybe both are rational.
Egocentrism is in all of us and what is normal/rational for one culture will not be the same for the other. So we have to agree to disagree and try to live peacefully together by avoiding conflicts.
We are all in a spiral of chain reactions. Hatred is and will advocate more hatred. The chain has to be broken, but neither side is willing to.
Just to re-assure that harming any innocent not involved in this is not right and not acceptable by Islam or Muslims. I'm not defending harming innocents.
Ignoring this action is not easy for us, you guys are really underestimating what Islam means to a muslim.
you are calling this anger as irrational based on what ? your own norms and culture!. We do not consider your rationality to be the judge on us. The US is willing to wage wars for "Freedom", right? is that more rational than religion ?! Maybe both are rational.
Egocentrism is in all of us and what is normal/rational for one culture will not be the same for the other. So we have to agree to disagree and try to live peacefully together by avoiding conflicts.
We are all in a spiral of chain reactions. Hatred is and will advocate more hatred. The chain has to be broken, but neither side is willing to.
i'm wondering,
are there any teachings in the qur'an that suggest forgiveness like "turn the other cheek" and something like by your works will all people know me by your faith?
Good. I didn't think you would. But I assume you're still not against retaliation of some kind, as against property.Just to re-assure that harming any innocent not involved in this is not right and not acceptable by Islam or Muslims. I'm not defending harming innocents.
If it means retaliation for what someone else does to their own property, then you're right, it's something I wouldn't have estimated.Ignoring this action is not easy for us, you guys are really underestimating what Islam means to a muslim.
Based on the Muslim investiment of emotional value in the property of someone else.you are calling this anger as irrational based on what ?
Fine, but if what you do results in harmful retaliation be prepared to suffer the consequences.. We do not consider your rationality to be the judge on us.
Forgiveness is very rewarded in Islam, but it is not forgiveness in the sense of turning the other cheek. As in it is not the forgiveness of offenders while they are offending. It is the forgiveness of a repenter.