Zhakir
Peace&Tolerance
The sun runs as well as the moon this a fact. Quran doesn't say the sun Orbits earth.
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Quran is free of errors
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The sun runs as well as the moon this a fact. Quran doesn't say the sun Orbits earth.
Don Penguinoini
Modi.
The Sun has a fixed position.
Zhakir
Peace&Tolerance
:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:
The sun is moving in an orbit around the center of the Milky Way, and it is moving at the brisk rate of 486,000 miles per hour. It takes an unfathomable 226 million years for the sun (and its solar system) to make the full circuit around. The last time we were at this position was 226 million years ago, and dinosaurs ruled. The earth travels at 67,000 miles per hour in its orbit around the sun; a snail's pace compared to our galactic romp.
Sun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Don Penguinoini
Modi.
themadhair
Well-Known Member
And now you merely possess the same knowledge as the koranic authors.Oh lordy, i am embarresedI apologise.
Don Penguinoini
Modi.
That bad?
Zhakir
Peace&Tolerance
"The sun is fixed Quran is wrong :flirt: "Oh lordy, i am embarresed
AND, i spelt embaressed wrong.
:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:
themadhair
Well-Known Member
Not really. It wasn't until Hubble found out the sun's movement's in the last century. I could be wrong be wrong, but I'm willing to bet that you are too poor to afford a big huge honking observatory and too young to have two-dozen female assistants to do the research work for you.
The Voice of Reason
Doctor of Thinkology
The Voice of Reason
Doctor of Thinkology
Isn't it odd that you quote the secular "Wikipedia" for a source on such scientific information, when you should have just as easily have been able to use the Koran, and provided conclusive evidence for your argument, as you claim?
Truly odd.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
How terribly impressive it must be for you to outfox a kid.
His penguin-ness, Don Penguinoini, is only 14. :yes:
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Gharib
I want Khilafah back
thats a typo, it's soposed to be LOTS OF EVIDENCE.
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
How terribly impressive it must be for you to outfox a kid.
and how terribly impressive for you to outfox someone else thats probably 30 years younger than you. life goes round.
gnostic
The Lost One
zhakir said:
The Qur'an also don't say that the sun orbits the "galaxy".
Do you see "galaxy" in the text?
The whole verse have do with sun and moon in relation to the "earth". And day and night in relationp to the earth. Hence, when it talks about orbit of each, it has to do with the sun's and moon's orbits around the earth.
And do you have no concept of "context"?
Do "galaxy" have day and night?
Does say anywhere about cluster of stars or galaxy?
Seriously, the more you've argue your points, the less credible they are.
If what you say is true about the verse saying it's a galaxy, then why did not of the Muslim scientists ever prove the earth went around the sun?
The reason why is because they were influenced by past teachings of scientists and philosophers.
A couple of Muslim scientists though that may be the earth went around the sun, but immediately ditch it because they couldn't prove, but all the other Muslim scientists accepted the geocentric system, because the Ptolemy's works were quite influential to Muslim scientists and the Muslim scientists had never really challenged it.
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gnostic
The Lost One
If the Qur'an is perfect, then it should have provided a clear explanations to very single scientific claims that Muslims have tried to make today. It doesn't. It cannot provide explanation; nor can it provide proof. Hence, all the little snippets that Muslims have kept pushing in the science debate, are not scientific. PERIOD!
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
the quran isn't a science book that goes through all it's points in detail. it is telling us about the universe, and it is up to us to make the discoveries. having said that, all the discoveries that have been made are in favour to the quran.
gnostic
The Lost One
But if any Muslim thinks it has scientific value, then it would have to include something that scientific useful, which the Qur'an don't.
And if you think like Zhakir do, that the verse about the orbits of the sun and moon, then it should have somewhere that it is not the sun's orbit around the earth, but to the orbit to the galaxy, hence it should damn well same galaxy, which it clearly don't. And if it don't make clear whether it is earth or galaxy, then that omission alone, is an error in the Qur'an.
So the Qur'an is about rubbish, scientifically.
Until the Muslims admit it that it is not perfect and useless scientifically, the debate will go on.
And if you think like Zhakir do, that the verse about the orbits of the sun and moon, then it should have somewhere that it is not the sun's orbit around the earth, but to the orbit to the galaxy, hence it should damn well same galaxy, which it clearly don't. And if it don't make clear whether it is earth or galaxy, then that omission alone, is an error in the Qur'an.
So the Qur'an is about rubbish, scientifically.
Until the Muslims admit it that it is not perfect and useless scientifically, the debate will go on.
Zhakir
Peace&Tolerance
Quran Miracles | THE SUN ALSO MOVES ALONG
Why is it hard for you to accpet that the verse doesn't say: "the sun orbits earth"
This is the way it is.
Why is it hard for you to accpet that the verse doesn't say: "the sun orbits earth"
This is the way it is.