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Quran is free of errors

gnostic

gnostic

The Lost One
mestemia said:
Nor does it say anything about the sun orbiting the galaxy.
Your mastery of the Forer Effect does not change the fact that you are trying to make the verse mean something that it does not say.
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I keep asking where it say "galaxy" in the verse, but I get no answer.

It may not say "earth", but where else has day and night, and moon and sun.

I have heard of being stubborn, but this stubbornness is at the point of complete stupidity.
 
McBell

McBell

Unbound
gnostic said:
I keep asking where it say "galaxy" in the verse, but I get no answer.

It may not say "earth", but where else has day and night, and moon and sun.

I have heard of being stubborn, but this stubbornness is at the point of complete stupidity.
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This isn't stubbornness,
This is fanaticism.
 
Don Penguinoini

Don Penguinoini

Modi.
eselam said:
the quran isn't a science book that goes through all it's points in detail. it is telling us about the universe, and it is up to us to make the discoveries. having said that, all the discoveries that have been made are in favour to the quran.
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Then why does Zhakir present the Quran as a textbook to us, always telling us of its great miracles?

You seriously think the world has he Quran to thank for all the discoveries? That is just silly now. I think we all know that is not true.
 
Don Penguinoini

Don Penguinoini

Modi.
Mestemia said:
So you would counter an opinion based on false assumptions with another opinion based upon false assumptions?

How does that make you any better than him?
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This is not exactly FALSE...

I have not set out to be better than him. It is not hard to be better than a robot.
 
Zhakir

Zhakir

Peace&Tolerance
Who is stubborn?
Quran is free of errors.
38- And the Sun moves on to its destination. That is the ordinance of the Mighty, the Knower.
36-Ya-Seen, 38
v.40
It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.
This is right.Each float in an orbit,and sun moves, on to its destination.
 
gnostic

gnostic

The Lost One
mestemia said:
This isn't stubbornness,
This is fanaticism.
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How about stubborn fanaticism?

My biggest problem is their claims of modern science with their their sacred book has become nothing short of stupidity.

Some would admit it is not science book, and yet they want recognition for their qur'an being scientific, because of the so-called signs, which are both useless and worthless.

The Qur'an and Islam are looking more and more like a big joke, no better than the christian creationism or intelligent design. In science the common connection between Islam, Creationism and Intelligent Design (in regard to science) is that they have the credibility of fairy godmother.
 
Don Penguinoini

Don Penguinoini

Modi.
Zhakir said:
Who is stubborn?
Quran is free of errors.
38- And the Sun moves on to its destination. That is the ordinance of the Mighty, the Knower.
36-Ya-Seen, 38
v.40
It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.
This is right.Each float in an orbit,and sun moves, on to its destination.
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The works of the classical Indian astronomer and mathematician, Aryabhata (476-550 CE), deal with the sphericity of the Earth and the motion of the planets. The final two parts of his Sanskrit magnum opus the Aryabhatiya, which were named the Kalakriya ("reckoning of time") and the Gola ("sphere"), state that the earth is spherical and that its circumference is 4,967 yojanas, which in modern units is 39,968 km, which is only 62 km less than the current value of 40,030 km.[26][27] He also stated that the apparent rotation of the celestial objects was due to the actual rotation of the earth, calculating the length of the sidereal day to be 23 hours, 56 minutes and 4.1 seconds, which is also surprisingly accurate. It is likely that Aryabhata's results influenced European astronomy, because the 8th century Arabic version of the Aryabhatiya was translated into Latin in the 13th century.

So, you just said he said.

"...And a route he followed, until when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it to set in a miry fount; and hard by he found a people...Then followed he a route until when he reached the rising of the sun he found it to rise on a people to whom we had given no shelter from it." (Sura 18:83-89).

"He hath spread the earth as a bed, and hath traced out paths for you therein, and hath sent down rain from Heaven, and by it we bring forth the kinds of various herbs..." (Sura 20:55).

"Who hath made the earth a bed for you, and the heaven a covering, and hath caused water to come down from heaven, and by it hath brought forth fruits for your sustenance!" (Sura 2:20).​
"And God hath spread the earth for you like a carpet,
That ye may walk therein along spacious paths." (Sura 71:18-19).

But i forgot, every single translation of the Quran in the world is, except for yours.
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McBell

McBell

Unbound
Zhakir said:
Who is stubborn?
Quran is free of errors.
38- And the Sun moves on to its destination. That is the ordinance of the Mighty, the Knower.
36-Ya-Seen, 38
v.40
It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.
This is right.Each float in an orbit,and sun moves, on to its destination.
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You are.
But you your stubborn fanaticism will not let you see it.
 
McBell

McBell

Unbound
gnostic said:
How about stubborn fanaticism?
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Works for me.

gnostic said:
My biggest problem is their claims of modern science with their their sacred book has become nothing short of stupidity.

Some would admit it is not science book, and yet they want recognition for their qur'an being scientific, because of the so-called signs, which are both useless and worthless.

The Qur'an and Islam are looking more and more like a big joke, no better than the christian creationism or intelligent design. In science the common connection between Islam, Creationism and Intelligent Design (in regard to science) is that they have the credibility of fairy godmother.
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Your preaching to the choir.

I just happen to find it fascinating the lengths he is willing to go to in order to protect/ratify his beliefs.
It is most revealing.

I also find much amusement with eselam coming in here with his two cents every once in a while. He just adds whole new levels to the fascination and amusement factors.
 
YmirGF

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
eselam said:
and how terribly impressive for you to outfox someone else thats probably 30 years younger than you. life goes round.
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Hehe. This is coming from someone who is on record as saying all old people you have met are stupid? :rolleyes: Eselam, there is a bit of a difference between outfoxing a very young man and outfoxing a grown adult.
 
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