Quran is free of errors

[Alla Prima]

1. Definition of the word ‘fundamentalist’
A fundamentalist is a person who follows and adheres to the fundamentals of the doctrine or theory he is following. For a person to be a good doctor, he should know, follow, and practise the fundamentals of medicine. In other words, he should be a fundamentalist in the field of medicine. For a person to be a good mathematician, he should know, follow and practise the fundamentals of mathematics. He should be a fundamentalist in the field of mathematics. For a person to be a good scientist, he should know, follow and practise the fundamentals of science. He should be a fundamentalist in the field of science.

"Fundamentalism refers to a belief in, and strict adherence to a set of basic principles." A Fundamentalist believes in the inerrancy of his/her docrine.

 

[Shahzad]

Again YmirGF you are throwing your random thoughts.We believe that Islam should be the driver of all people.
Why are most of the Muslims fundamentalists and terrorists?

If we wanted to bore ourselves with chunks of pure Zakir Naik we could do it in our own time, if you want to say something do it in your own words from your own mind.

 

[Alla Prima]

Today the moment a person uses the word fundamentalist he thinks of a Muslim who is a terrorist.

I don't but if people do then Islam has only itself to blame.

 

[Alla Prima]

7. [/B]Islam means peace
Islam is derived from the word ‘salaam’ which means peace. It is a religion of peace whose fundamentals teach its followers to maintain and promote peace throughout the world.
Thus every Muslim should be a fundamentalist i.e. he should follow the fundamentals of the Religion of Peace: Islam. He should be a terrorist only towards the antisocial elements in order to promote peace and justice in the society.

Islam's idea of 'peace' is once the world is under Muslim dominance we will have peace. Islam means submission. Submission to the will of Allah.

I. The Meaning of Islam

Islam is derived from the Arabic root "Salema": peace, purity, submission and obedience. In the religious sense, Islam means submission to the will of God and obedience to His law.

Everything and every phenomenon in the world other than man is administered totally by God-made laws, ie. they are obedient to God and submissive to his laws, they are in the State of Islam. Man possesses the qualities of intelligence and choice, thus he is invited to submit to the good will of God and obey His law, ie, become a Muslim.

Submission to the good will of God, together with obedience to His beneficial Law, ie, becoming a Muslim, is the best safeguard for man's peace and harmony.

Islam dates back to the age of Adam and its message has been conveyed to man by God's prophets and messengers, including Abrahim, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad.

Islam's message has been restored and enforced in the last stage of the religious evolution by God's last prophet and messenger, Muhammad.

The word Allah in the Arabic language means God, or more accurately, The One and Only Eternal God, Creator of the Universe, Lord of all lords, King of all kings, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful. The word Allah to mean God is also used by Arabic speaking Jews and Christians. http://www.barghouti.com/islam/meaning.html

 

[YmirGF]

Again YmirGF you are throwing your random thoughts.We believe that Islam should be the driver of all people.

This is so typical of Muslims. You do realize that you have agreed with me and therefore have defeated your own original post to me, correct?

 

[YmirGF]

If we wanted to bore ourselves with chunks of pure Zakir Naik we could do it in our own time, if you want to say something do it in your own words from your own mind.

You are assuming much with the last part of your statement, Shahzad. C'mon "Dr." Zakir Naik is more laughs than a barrel of monkeys.

 

[Shahzad]

This one is hilarious! So accurate too.

YouTube - Zakir Naik spoof... Sensitive people - f**k off

 

[Fatihah]

The true meaning of Islam is tyranny. Why do I think this? Because Islam imposes it's ideology on every single living being on this planet. "All are born Islam". It is one thing to suggest a better way for others to live. That is not tyranny. But to state, in no uncertain terms, that one's 'God' is in fact a universal 'God' and all beings, whether they like it or not, are subject to this 'God' then that is tyranny. Now add to this mix Islam's stated goal of domination and it's practice of violent Jihad (found clearly in the writings of Islam) and there you are.

Response: To say that all humanity is subject to God is not tyranny. You owe love and respect to the one who gave you life. That's not tyranny, that's morality.

 

[Shahzad]

Response: To say that all humanity is subject to God is not tyranny. You owe love and respect to the one who gave you life. That's not tyranny, that's morality.

Even were that to be true and there really were such an emotionally needy omnipotent and omniscient god who constantly demanded faith and service, there's no reason to believe that the Islamic god is the correct one and many reasons to believe that it is not.

 

[Alla Prima]

Response: To say that all humanity is subject to God is not tyranny. You owe love and respect to the one who gave you life. That's not tyranny, that's morality.

'God' is not mine creation. To make it mine and all of ours - is tyrannical. I believe you're free (and I support this freedom) to insult but know that your comment is insulting to me. It is offensive that you so soundly and without consideration, dismiss my personally held spiritual beliefs and implant your own.

 

[Fatihah]

'God' is not mine creation. To make it mine and all of ours - is tyrannical. I believe you're free (and I support this freedom) to insult but know that your comment is insulting to me. It is offensive that you so soundly and without consideration, dismiss my personally held spiritual beliefs and implant your own.

Response: My intention is not to insult so if you feel insulted then I do apologize. However it is not tyranny because I did not force my belief on you and in all actually, when you impose the fact that I'm implying tyranny, you're being guilty of your own accusation and thus throwing the same insult at me. For you are dismissing my beliefs and implanting your own as well.

 

[YmirGF]

'God' is not mine creation. To make it mine and all of ours - is tyrannical. I believe you're free (and I support this freedom) to insult but know that your comment is insulting to me. It is offensive that you so soundly and without consideration, dismiss my personally held spiritual beliefs and implant your own.

I think you make an important point, Alla Prima. I know I have used Islam as an object lesson on how NOT to put things and to stay away from making absolute statements. To imply that say, you and I, are simply ignoring the god that created us, totally ignores our own beliefs on the matter. It is a most ignorant thing to say if the truth be told.

 

[Alla Prima]

Response: My intention is not to insult so if you feel insulted then I do apologize. However it is not tyranny because I did not force my belief on you and in all actually, when you impose the fact that I'm implying tyranny, you're being guilty of your own accusation and thus throwing the same insult at me. For you are dismissing my beliefs and implanting your own as well.

I did not say YOU have no 'God'. I said your 'God' is not MY creation - not MY 'God'. Have your own 'God'. Fine with me. But don't tell me your 'God' is my 'God'. And yes you ARE forcing your beliefs on me by saying this. As to the apology if you tell me you won't do it again then I will accept your apology. If not then I won't accept it.

 

[Alla Prima]

I think you make an important point, Alla Prima. I know I have used Islam as an object lesson on how NOT to put things and to stay away from making absolute statements. To imply that say, you and I, are simply ignoring the god that created us, totally ignores our own beliefs on the matter. It is a most ignorant thing to say if the truth be told.

Thank you. I think it's a point that's been overlooked. And btw before anyone cries bigot because I'm criticizing Islam I have made the same comment to Fundamentalist Christians for holding a like view.

 

[.lava]

The true meaning of Islam is tyranny.

stop attacking our religion.


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[Alla Prima]

stop attacking our religion.


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First of all I'm not attacking your religion though I understand why you continually use that term 'attack'. You use it to garner sympathy. 'Attacking' is such an aggressive unprovoked act and one that doesn't get a lot of sympathy. And secondly let's be clear. It is your religion which is imposing itself on me not the other way around so as long as you are doing that I will be here to say no to it.

 

[.lava]

First of all I'm not attacking your religion though I understand why you continually use that term 'attack'.

i am not willing to play "fool" just because you play one when it is needed.

You use it to garner sympathy. 'Attacking' is such an aggressive unprovoked act and one that doesn't get a lot of sympathy.

don't make me quote all those hateful statements you've made about Islam for months.

And secondly let's be clear.

be already.

It is your religion which is imposing itself on me not the other way around so as long as you are doing that I will be here to say no to it.

we are the ones who follow Islam as a path. Islam could not impose anything on you because it is not a human being. if there are Muslims who's oppressing you here then report them. i know i do not do that. i don't oppress anyone, not you not any other person in my life despite members of RF.

no dude, you won't be here on Qur'anic debate DIR and say truth of Islam is tyranny. how dare you say such a thing? none of the Muslims would expect you to accept, to love or even to respect our religion. yet that does not mean you have freedom to speak for Islam. it is not your religion, you do not get to say the truth of Islam. it is our religion, we practice it so it is us who has experiences of Islam and it is our right to speak about it. you can only have your opinions as a outside observer and your poor, biased and sick opinions has no place in here.


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[Fatihah]

I did not say YOU have no 'God'. I said your 'God' is not MY creation - not MY 'God'. Have your own 'God'. Fine with me. But don't tell me your 'God' is my 'God'. And yes you ARE forcing your beliefs on me by saying this. As to the apology if you tell me you won't do it again then I will accept your apology. If not then I won't accept it.

Response: Then I guess you will have to not accept my apology because I love Allah a whole lot more than anything, anyone, anybody. And it is Allah who alone deserves worship and it is my obligation and privilege to explain and propogate his message and that message is that He is the originator of the universe and everthing that's in it including life itself, which includes you also. And it also my privilege and duty to make clear to everyone and have everyone understand:

Ashadu an la illaha illa-llah
Wa Ashadu anna Muhammadur rasuulullah

 

[Alla Prima]

yet that does not mean you have freedom to speak for Islam.

I do not speak for Islam. I speak for myself.

 

[Alla Prima]

Response: Then I guess you will have to not accept my apology because I love Allah a whole lot more than anything, anyone, anybody. And it is Allah who alone deserves worship and it is my obligation and privilege to explain and propogate his message and that message is that He is the originator of the universe and everthing that's in it including life itself, which includes you also.

This is a clear example of why I believe Islam is so harmful to the human family. It is anti-freedom placing itself not only supreme in all religions but a religion that stands alone in value. It literally tells us all who our 'God' is and where we come from. This is tyranny.

Sorry but you don't get to tell me who my 'God' is or who I must worship without opposition. You don't get to get away with that.