YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
The great sadness, Mes, is that though they are a joke, they are not joking. One wonders if they will ever understand that which god concepts symbolize.
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Quran is free of errors
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kai
ragamuffin
its simultaneously shocking and amusing
Peace
Quran & Sunnah
"If ye ridicule us now, we (in our turn) can look down on you with ridicule likewise! (Quran, 11:38)
Soon you will know who is the joke
...just have patience.
Ghostaka
Active Member
Exactly the same can be said for you except its not "concepts" in plural and isn't in form of a symbol.
Peace be upon you.
"If ye ridicule us now, we (in our turn) can look down on you with ridicule likewise! (Quran, 11:38)
Soon you will know who is the joke
Response: Al Hamdu lilah.
Response: And yet your own words on this thread have proven to the contrary.
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
If you would care to disprove any of my evidence go ahead. I welcome your criticism.
ThereIsNoSpoon
Active Member
As i see nobody took any further interest in finding an explanation on his own (who wonders...)
Where is the error... Logically speaking its rather trivial.
The underlying claim is that any scripture or book that is not from God must contain error. Which AUTOMATICALLY means that ANYTHING WITHOUT errors is from God.
Now this is a rather stupid mistake because without problem you can find books that contain no error and still are not from God. Normally you wouldnt have a problem with that. Actually you would expect ALL books apart of the one you believe in to be not from god REGARDLESS of mistakes contained therein.
But this challenge is "formally" a logical mistake in itself. One might say the first error of the quran is the challenge itself.
I do not think that this will convince certain people of course
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
As i see nobody took any further interest in finding an explanation on his own (who wonders...)
Where is the error... Logically speaking its rather trivial.
The underlying claim is that any scripture or book that is not from God must contain error. Which AUTOMATICALLY means that ANYTHING WITHOUT errors is from God.
Now this is a rather stupid mistake because without problem you can find books that contain no error and still are not from God. Normally you wouldnt have a problem with that. Actually you would expect ALL books apart of the one you believe in to be not from god REGARDLESS of mistakes contained therein.
But this challenge is "formally" a logical mistake in itself. One might say the first error of the quran is the challenge itself.
I do not think that this will convince certain people of course
whats rather stupid is, that verse speaks direcly about the quran. did you ever think of that?
Mr Cheese
Well-Known Member
“We said above that Islam aims to base itself on the element “Truth” –that is, it puts the ascent there according to its own point of view and intention –and that is the “impersonal” character of this element which “decentralizes” Islamic “mythology.” In Christianity it will be doubtless be thought that the “divine reality” –manifested by Christ –has precedence over “truth”, the first being “concrete” and the second “abstract”, and this is the case when “truth” is reduced to the level of thought; but we must not lose sight of the fact we have a priori no knowledge of the divine Reality in the absence of metaphysical truth, whatever the degree of our understanding; from another angle, the word “truth” is often taken as synonymous with “reality” –“I am the way, the truth, and the life” –and this is how Islam understands it. It is precisely because we have to begin with no knowledge beyond the “truth” that we have a right to call “true’ what is “real”, a terminology that in no way prejudices the effective—and eventually “concrete” –quality of our apparently “abstract” knowledge. Be that as it may, the “subjective” manifestation of the Absolute is no less real than its “objective” manifestation: certitude is nothing less than a miracle.”
–F Schuon (Gnosis divine wisdom, page 9)
–F Schuon (Gnosis divine wisdom, page 9)
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
whats all this?
Response: You would have to had first provided some evidence in order for me to undergo such a task.
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
Go through my posts, all 120, you'll find something.
First perhaps you'd like to explain to me in detail how we are made of clay, and what function it plays in the molecules of our bone structures.
Since you know everything it should be easy
As i see nobody took any further interest in finding an explanation on his own (who wonders...)
Where is the error... Logically speaking its rather trivial.
The underlying claim is that any scripture or book that is not from God must contain error. Which AUTOMATICALLY means that ANYTHING WITHOUT errors is from God.
Now this is a rather stupid mistake because without problem you can find books that contain no error and still are not from God. Normally you wouldnt have a problem with that. Actually you would expect ALL books apart of the one you believe in to be not from god REGARDLESS of mistakes contained therein.
But this challenge is "formally" a logical mistake in itself. One might say the first error of the quran is the challenge itself.
I do not think that this will convince certain people of course
Response: On the contrary, there is no error. Just an inability to comprehend on your part. Just because the verse says that a Book from Allah(God) should have no error does not mean that any book without error is from Allah(God). That is you interpolating a meaning that clearly is not there.
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
you should know, aren't you the one who has soposedly posted plenty of it?
i'm laughing right back at you man.
Response: Well, you would first have to demonstrate where myself or anyone has said that we are made "of" clay. When you fail to do so, then we can proceed.
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
you should know, aren't you the one who has soposedly posted plenty of it?
i'm laughing right back at you man.
Yes. I have. I have demonstrated about 7 times why humans cannot be made of clay molecules, i think a 9 year old could understand better than you guys but ok.
If you havn't learn't anything then you're a waste of my time. Its funny that the 7 year old kids (3 of them) that i tutor have a better understanding of what evidence is. Its quite humerous.
Response: Jazak'Allah, brother. Al Hamdu lilah.