Mr Cheese
Well-Known Member
I get your point but Allah is Perfect, people are not; put simply lol.
Peace be upon you.
Does that give us an exscuse to act silly though?
If we are truly pious, the answer would be no, or as little as possible!
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Does that give us an exscuse to act silly though?
If we are truly pious, the answer would be no, or as little as possible!
Mr Cheese
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Ghostaka
Active Member
Arkwort
Eternal Dreamer
Hardware is made by humans
Peace be upon you.
Of course as hardware ages it can become faulty,
much as a book ages it may become hard to read!
That's when you might replace a circuit in the computer or get a new drive.
Generally new computers are free from errors!!!!!!!
Definitely....hardware is definitely made by humans.
Arkwort
Ghostaka
Active Member
Surely, it doesn't (give an excuse to act silly). The answer is no but very difficult to live up to it. Still one should try their utmost!
Allah knows we are not perfect because he want's us not be. Hadith (appoximately): If we were sinless people, He would wipe us out and replace us with a people who made mistakes. So that we could repent.
And now for a chunky hadith
:An-Numan ibn Bashir reported that the Prophet (peace and blessing be upon him) said, Allah is more pleased with the repentance of His believing slave-servant than that of a person set out on a journey with a provision of food and drink on the back of his camel. He went on until he came to a waterless desert and he felt like sleeping. So he got down under the shade of a tree and was overcome by sleep, and his camel ran away. As he got up he tried to see it (the camel) standing upon a mound, but did not find it. He then got upon the other mound, but could not see anything until he came back to the place where he had been sleeping previously. And as he was sitting (in utter disappointment) there came to him his camel, till that (camel) placed its nose string in his hand. Allah is more pleased with the repentance of His slave-servant than the person who found (his lost camel) in this very state. (Reported by Muslim)
Peace be upon you.
Ghostaka
Active Member
Of course as hardware ages it can become faulty,
much as a book ages it may become hard to read!
That's when you might replace a circuit in the computer or get a new drive.
Generally new computers are free from errors!!!!!!!
Definitely....hardware is definitely made by humans.
Arkwort
See that's why I avoided saying that hardware breaks down. Instead I said that humans made it as opposed to Allah.
New books are easy to read as well
Peace be upon you.
edit: P.S. I got a new computer recently and its super awesomeness lol (no break downs yet!)
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darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
See you can't disprove it. You have no idea. Is there any reason why you ignored the other half of the post as well?
Response: Your own response shows that it was disproven because you couldn't even produce a logical rebuttle. The best you could come up with is "you can't disprove it." No actual proof that it wasn't disproven, just a statement synonymous to the redundancy of your other responses that says "you can't disprove it". Sorry, but that's not evidence. As for me not acknowledging the rest of the post, once again, post 1366 adresses that, for it shows that you can't produce a single post in which anyone claims that humans are made "of" clay.
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darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
You're a hypocrite haha. You, yourself can't prove a thing. Not once in this thread have you actively tried to disporve us. All you say is that is not evidence or something of the sort. No wonder no one takes you seriously.
I would like to hear from you now, rather than you regurgitating information, why i am wrong. It shouldn't be that hard should it.
Excuse me genius, but why would i waste hours typing responses about clay, unless you were talking about humans being made of damn clay. Look from pages 85-95, not once do you justify yourself. You either ignore the evidence or make an unrelated post.
[QUOTE:darkendless]You're a hypocrite haha. You, yourself can't prove a thing. Not once in this thread have you actively tried to disporve us. All you say is that is not evidence or something of the sort. No wonder no one takes you seriously. (End quote)
Response: Post 1366 proves to the contrary.
Quote: darkendless
I would like to hear from you now, rather than you regurgitating information, why i am wrong. It shouldn't be that hard should it.(End quote)
Response: Once again, post 1368 of page 137
Quote: darkendless
Excuse me genius, but why would i waste hours typing responses about clay, unless you were talking about humans being made of damn clay. Look from pages 85-95, not once do you justify yourself. You either ignore the evidence or make an unrelated post.(End quote)
Response: There's the statement. Where's the proof?
Response: Post 1366 proves to the contrary.
Quote: darkendless
I would like to hear from you now, rather than you regurgitating information, why i am wrong. It shouldn't be that hard should it.(End quote)
Response: Once again, post 1368 of page 137
Quote: darkendless
Excuse me genius, but why would i waste hours typing responses about clay, unless you were talking about humans being made of damn clay. Look from pages 85-95, not once do you justify yourself. You either ignore the evidence or make an unrelated post.(End quote)
Response: There's the statement. Where's the proof?
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
Thats not evidence, these posts are unrelated. You've been given the information you demanded and now you have nothing better to say. I assume you have nothing because you are lying about saying we're made of clay, because you defended it for 40 pages unsuccessfully.
You can't even disprove my evidence with your own words, what does that say about you. You're like debating with a child, except they're smart enough to know when to quit.
[QUOTE:darkendless]Thats not evidence, these posts are unrelated. You've been given the information you demanded and now you have nothing better to say. I assume you have nothing because you are lying about saying we're made of clay, because you defended it for 40 pages unsuccessfully.(End quote)
Response: How sad. You claim I said something and can't provide any proof that I've said it and yet I'm the liar. One can clearly see who the liar is.
Quote: darkendless
You can't even disprove my evidence with your own words, what does that say about you. You're like debating with a child, except they're smart enough to know when to quit.
Response: How sad. You claim I said something and can't provide any proof that I've said it and yet I'm the liar. One can clearly see who the liar is.
Quote: darkendless
You can't even disprove my evidence with your own words, what does that say about you. You're like debating with a child, except they're smart enough to know when to quit.
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
:biglaugh:evidence? Since when have you provided that? :biglaugh:
I have to stop im sorry i've laughed so hard at your attempts to remain credible in this thread that i think im about to break something if i laugh anymore.
Response: Yes, this is the natural response of those whose own evidence proves to the contrary.
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
You've demonstrated many time now that you do not have near the mental capacity to comprehend such evidence.
Response: Yet post 1368 proves to the contrary.
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
Post 1368: Response: How many times must this same argument get debunked? Post 882 of page 89 and post 891 of page 90."
I have not seen you debunk it yet, all you've said is "thats wrong." Please tell me how anything i've said in this thread is wrong.
Response: Show me in either posts (882 or 891) in which all I say is "that's wrong", if you are truthful? Quote those words for everyone to see, if you are truthful.
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
891
Response: Just because man is created from clay does not mean that the skin must behave a certain way. And as I explained, there are other factors.
This is wrong. I explained why in post #874, that clay will always act as clay, no matter what you do with it.
882
Response: Yes. You see, you are referring to clay and solely on clay. The human body is made up of so much more. So one must also consider the other factors of man as well. Water will freeze solid when exposed to certain temperatures. If I walked outside in the freezing winter with a cup of water, after some time, the water inside will freeze solid. I on the other hand will not, despite the fact that science says that we are made of water. So does this mean that science is wrong? No. Because there are other factors involved. The same is the case concerning man in relation with clay.
Wrong again, if the body contains clay it will exhibit some properties of clay. Every other material does the same.
894
Response: On the contrary, the evidence has been refuted and shown to hold no ground.
You have not refuted any evidence at all. Not once have you demonstrated that clay molecules are retained in the human body.
[QUOTE:darkendless]891
(Quote: Fatihah)
Response: Just because man is created from clay does not mean that the skin must behave a certain way. And as I explained, there are other factors.(End quote)
Quote: darkendless
This is wrong. I explained why in post #874, that clay will always act as clay, no matter what you do with it.(End quote)
Response: In just the previous post, you just stated that all I said was "that's wrong" and yet when you actually quote my words, the statement is not there. In fact, neither the word "that's" or "wrong" is in either post. Tell me darkendless, why do you have to lie?
Secondly, what's this "clay will always act like clay?" Clay doesn't "act".
Quote: darkendless
882
(Quote: Fatihah)
Response: Yes. You see, you are referring to clay and solely on clay. The human body is made up of so much more. So one must also consider the other factors of man as well. Water will freeze solid when exposed to certain temperatures. If I walked outside in the freezing winter with a cup of water, after some time, the water inside will freeze solid. I on the other hand will not, despite the fact that science says that we are made of water. So does this mean that science is wrong? No. Because there are other factors involved. The same is the case concerning man in relation with clay.(End quote)
Quote: darkendless
Wrong again, if the body contains clay it will exhibit some properties of clay. Every other material does the same.(End quote)
Response: And once again, you are basing your argument on the claim that I said that the body is made "of" clay. Yet for the last several posts, when asked to provide evidence of me saying this, you fail to do so everytime. Why be such a liar, darkendless? If what you are saying is true, produce the proof. Demonstrate to us that you haven't reduced your argument to lies to gain some sort of credibility, if you are truthful.
(Quote: Fatihah)
Response: Just because man is created from clay does not mean that the skin must behave a certain way. And as I explained, there are other factors.(End quote)
Quote: darkendless
This is wrong. I explained why in post #874, that clay will always act as clay, no matter what you do with it.(End quote)
Response: In just the previous post, you just stated that all I said was "that's wrong" and yet when you actually quote my words, the statement is not there. In fact, neither the word "that's" or "wrong" is in either post. Tell me darkendless, why do you have to lie?
Secondly, what's this "clay will always act like clay?" Clay doesn't "act".
Quote: darkendless
882
(Quote: Fatihah)
Response: Yes. You see, you are referring to clay and solely on clay. The human body is made up of so much more. So one must also consider the other factors of man as well. Water will freeze solid when exposed to certain temperatures. If I walked outside in the freezing winter with a cup of water, after some time, the water inside will freeze solid. I on the other hand will not, despite the fact that science says that we are made of water. So does this mean that science is wrong? No. Because there are other factors involved. The same is the case concerning man in relation with clay.(End quote)
Quote: darkendless
Wrong again, if the body contains clay it will exhibit some properties of clay. Every other material does the same.(End quote)
Response: And once again, you are basing your argument on the claim that I said that the body is made "of" clay. Yet for the last several posts, when asked to provide evidence of me saying this, you fail to do so everytime. Why be such a liar, darkendless? If what you are saying is true, produce the proof. Demonstrate to us that you haven't reduced your argument to lies to gain some sort of credibility, if you are truthful.