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Reasons for believing in the Bible as the literal word of God.

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TLK Valentine

Read the books that others would burn.
Yes, because it's kind of another subject. So this is probably not the forum to go into it now.

I don't see why not -- but it would be a lot easier to first define "life" before getting into it.
What does it mean to be "alive" anyway?
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I don't see why not -- but it would be a lot easier to first define "life" before getting into it.
What does it mean to be "alive" anyway?
I'm sorry but if you don't know what life means I don't want to get into theories and tests about it. So thanks anyway. Hope your life is good today. :)
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
I believe in it because God supports it. I can see that Jesus talks the same way that God spoke to me.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
And wake up those critical and analytical skills while doing so.

Whenever I reminisce back to my days as a devout Christian, I'm still flabbergasted and completely floored by the fact that I actually used to believe all of the Bible was true and accurate, and the world of unbelievers was dark, blind, and destitute.

I still cannot fathom to this day as to how so incredibly strong religious fueled delusion can be and is for people, so much so as to deny actual reality itself in favor of the imaginary.
I believe you must have believed without a basis for belief. You built your faith on shifting sand instead of the solid rock.
 

Father Heathen

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And wake up those critical and analytical skills while doing so.

Whenever I reminisce back to my days as a devout Christian, I'm still flabbergasted and completely floored by the fact that I actually used to believe all of the Bible was true and accurate, and the world of unbelievers was dark, blind, and destitute.

I still cannot fathom to this day as to how so incredibly strong religious fueled delusion can be and is for people, so much so as to deny actual reality itself in favor of the imaginary.
But such is the sand that the republican party is built upon; appeasing the religious fundamentalists. It's why they hate women, lgbt, and science so much.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
@Muffled Just looked up commentary on one scripture Exodus 21:7 and it is very interesting. Nothing bad, but actually very good. Hope you enjoy it: One commentator (Barnes) states, "a man might, in accordance with existing custom, sell his daughter to another man with a view to her becoming an inferior wife, or concubine. In this case, she was not "to go out," like the bondman; that is, she was not to be dismissed at the end of the sixth year. But women who were bound in any other way, would appear to have been under the same conditions as bondmen." The women were to treated fairly. We know now that many women are not treated kindly or fairly and divorce courts are full. And of course there are many pregnancies with children not being care for, and more. So actually, looked at this properly, it was a consideration towards (not against) women.
 

URAVIP2ME

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I'm sorry, exactly what in Rev. 7:14 indicates it means here and now of all times?
Because Revelation was Not written for 1st century people.
The great tribulation of Rev. 7:14 was Not for the 1st century.
The great crowd of people mentioned in verse 9 are living people, alive on Earth.
Just as the figurative 'sheep' mentioned at Matt. 25:37 are 'living people alive on Earth' at Jesus' coming Glory Time - Matt. 25:31-34.
So, the already dead are not saved /delivered / rescued through the coming great tribulation of Rev. 7:14 but living people on Earth are.
Those of us who are alive at Jesus' coming can remain alive on Earth and live through the coming great tribulation and be here on Earth to see calendar Day One of Jesus' Millennium-Long day of governing over Earth for a thousand years with the opportunity to live forever on Earth.
Jesus Not only offered everlasting life in Heaven for some, but everlasting life on Earth for the majority of people - Matt. 5:5; Psalms 37:9-11; 22:26
 

URAVIP2ME

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I don't see why not -- but it would be a lot easier to first define "life" before getting into it.
What does it mean to be "alive" anyway?
What an interesting question ^ above ^.
Angels are mentioned in the Bible, they are living spirit persons in Heaven with spirit bodies.
Angels (angelic life) were created in the heavenly realm before any physical life on Earth.
At Genesis 2:7 physical earthly life is connected to breath (breathing) - See Genesis 2:7
Adam was formed or fashioned from the existing Earth and Adam did Not come to life until God breathed the breath of life into life-less Adam.
So, what it means for physical life to be literally alive is: to be breathing.
 

URAVIP2ME

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But such is the sand that the republican party is built upon; appeasing the religious fundamentalists. It's why they hate women, lgbt, and science so much.
In the 80's 'Republican' Pres. Reagan only paid ' lip service ' to the religious fundamentalists in order to win their vote.
After their disappointment with Reagan I think then they pushed for their own fundamental Bible colleges.
Perhaps with the goal of getting one of the students to later win and become president to then carry out their own agenda.
Religion that meddles with the political likes to ' throne and dethrone ' kings. They meddle where they ought not meddle.
 

URAVIP2ME

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Which part do you think really hooks and brings them in? Exodus 21:7? Deuteronomy 22:28-29? Exodus 21:20-21?...............
Why stop at verse 7 when continuing to verse 9 at Ex. 21:9 she is granted the rights of a daughter. ( daughter statis was a privilege )
Continuing past Ex. 21:20-21 to verses 26-27 an injured slave was set free.
Deut. 22:28-29 the woman was protected in that she would have a husband.
Back then a woman without a husband would have meant hardship.
It was not the woman's fault what the man did.
 

Audie

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What an interesting question ^ above ^.
Angels are mentioned in the Bible, they are living spirit persons in Heaven with spirit bodies.
Angels (angelic life) were created in the heavenly realm before any physical life on Earth.
At Genesis 2:7 physical earthly life is connected to breath (breathing) - See Genesis 2:7
Adam was formed or fashioned from the existing Earth and Adam did Not come to life until God breathed the breath of life into life-less Adam.
So, what it means for physical life to be literally alive is: to be breathing.
Right. Plants are not alive. Still less are
mushrooms. And seeds? Forget it.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Why stop at verse 7 when continuing to verse 9 at Ex. 21:9 she is granted the rights of a daughter. ( daughter statis was a privilege )
Continuing past Ex. 21:20-21 to verses 26-27 an injured slave was set free.
Deut. 22:28-29 the woman was protected in that she would have a husband.
Back then a woman without a husband would have meant hardship.
It was not the woman's fault what the man did.
Precisely. As I read it, it appeared to me that it was giving privilege to a woman so that she would not be abused.
 

Father Heathen

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Why stop at verse 7 when continuing to verse 9 at Ex. 21:9 she is granted the rights of a daughter. ( daughter statis was a privilege )
Continuing past Ex. 21:20-21 to verses 26-27 an injured slave was set free.
None of that changes the fact that you're selling your own daughter into sexual slavery.
Deut. 22:28-29 the woman was protected in that she would have a husband.
Her "husband" would be the one she would need protection from.
Back then a woman without a husband would have meant hardship.
Being forced to live under the control of your rapist would be a far more hellish hardship.
It was not the woman's fault what the man did.
precisely why it's wrong to punish her for it in such a cruel and grotesque way.

So, in conclusion, trash tome.
 
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