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Reasons To Believe In Yeshua/Jesus Christ Our Lord

DNB

Christian
You've made negative statements about atheism. Now you're doing the same about agnosticism.

What should one conclude from this? That people must either share your worldview or have theirs denigrated? Does this kind of approach represent Jesus' teachings, in your view?
To call a spade, a spade - yes. To detect incorrigibility - yes. To rebuke and admonish - yes.
If one is respectively questioning something, that's tolerable. But, when one asserts that the Creator of all life and love does not exist, this is not a matter of ignorance, but of sheer defiance and contempt.
 

DNB

Christian
Absolute rubbish. Agnosticism can simply mean "I don't know." It is a remark that non-arrogant people make quite frequently.
If God exists, how is it possible to not know it - how can He hide the fact that the universe was designed and created by a personal and intelligent Being?
And, if God does not exist, theists must be detectably insane.
How can someone say that they don't know either way?
 

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
But no other on creature on the planet has done - there are no Christian cats, or Buddhist dogs, or camels walking around with bourkas on their head.
Why did man spend so much time and money on religion, when even you say that God exists, if it was just an absolute crap-shoot? You're wrong, and you're overlooking the blatant and undeniable evidence.
Do you believe in astrology and other crap just because people spend vast sums of money on it?
You have in my view a serious flaw in your logic if you think something must certainly be true because people spend vast sums of money on it.
 

rocala

Well-Known Member
And, if God does not exist, theists must be detectably insane.
Are you qualified to give such an opinion?
If God exists, how is it possible to not know it - how can He hide the fact that the universe was designed and created by a personal and intelligent Being?

How can someone say that they don't know either way?
You ask a lot of questions. What a pity that you failed to provide any answers.
 

DNB

Christian
Do you believe in astrology and other crap just because people spend vast sums of money on it?
You have in my view a serious flaw in your logic if you think something must certainly be true because people spend vast sums of money on it.
Why does this point take forever with most of you??? I'm not saying that popularity defines veracity, but rather that popularity defines humanity.
For the umpteenth time, therefore, men are spiritual due to the fact that the majority seek the transcendent - the spiritual realms.
 

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Why does this point take forever with most of you??? I'm not saying that popularity defines veracity, but rather that popularity defines humanity.
For the umpteenth time, therefore, men are spiritual due to the fact that the majority seek the transcendent - the spiritual realms.
Popularity defines humanity? Astrology is popular therefore humans are defined as astrology?
Perhaps you need to read a dictionary before using complicated sounding words in my opinion.
 

DNB

Christian
Popularity defines humanity? Astrology is popular therefore humans are defined as astrology?
Perhaps you need to read a dictionary before using complicated sounding words in my opinion.
Just when I thought that we might be making progress, at least in the beginning - utterly incorrigible and devoid of wisdom.
 
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Muffled

Jesus in me
So why do you believe the writers of the Bible? Why do you think they knew about Jesus and God?
I believe God supports the writers. I also can see that the writers have reported the words of Jesus and those words are in the same style as God speaks to me.
 

lionehza

New Member
A load of unwarranted assumptions is what you call "reason"?
There is no reliable evidence that God even exists let alone has a son in my view.

Having said that I'll lay my cards on the table, I do believe in a God that is disinterested in the material realm, but not due to the process of complete impartial reason.

Still since I do not share your starting premise that God has a Son, nor do I believe your premise that God has interest in the material realm you will find it an uphill struggle to convince me your post is reason to believe in my opinion.
Jesus is not omniscient.He don't know everything. Jesus don't know the last hour.As it was said in the bible "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."Mark 13:32
HOW COME HE IS GOD?
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Jesus is not omniscient.He don't know everything. Jesus don't know the last hour.As it was said in the bible "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."Mark 13:32
HOW COME HE IS GOD?
Jesus is not God, since Jesus does not have all the attributes of God.

According to the Bible God is: Eternal, Holy, Unchanging, Impassable, Infinite, Omnipresent, All-Powerful, All-Knowing, All-Wise, Infallible, Self-Existent, Self-Sufficient, Sovereign, Immaterial, Good, Loving, Gracious, Merciful, Just, Righteous, Forgiving, and Patient.

According to the Bible Jesus is: Holy, Good, Loving, Gracious, Merciful, Just, Righteous, Forgiving, and Patient, but Jesus is not Eternal, Unchanging, Impassable, Infinite, Omnipresent, All-Powerful, All-Knowing, All-Wise, Infallible, Self-Existent, Self-Sufficient, Sovereign, or Immaterial.

And that is why Jesus cannot be God, since Jesus only has SOME of the Attributes of God, not ALL of the Attributes of God.

This is logic 101 stuff.
 

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Jesus is not omniscient.He don't know everything. Jesus don't know the last hour.As it was said in the bible "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."Mark 13:32
HOW COME HE IS GOD?
For what its worth I do not believe Jesus is God.
 

TLK Valentine

Read the books that others would burn.
If God exists, how is it possible to not know it - how can He hide the fact that the universe was designed and created by a personal and intelligent Being?

Being Omnipotent might make it easier.

After all, if God exists and chooses not to expose Himself outright, how could we mere mortals detect Him?

And, if God does not exist, theists must be detectably insane.

Not necessarily, but even if it were true, that's their problem. Why should that bother non-theists?

How can someone say that they don't know either way?

By not knowing either way, and not being afraid to admit it.
 

DNB

Christian
Jesus is not God, since Jesus does not have all the attributes of God.

According to the Bible God is: Eternal, Holy, Unchanging, Impassable, Infinite, Omnipresent, All-Powerful, All-Knowing, All-Wise, Infallible, Self-Existent, Self-Sufficient, Sovereign, Immaterial, Good, Loving, Gracious, Merciful, Just, Righteous, Forgiving, and Patient.

According to the Bible Jesus is: Holy, Good, Loving, Gracious, Merciful, Just, Righteous, Forgiving, and Patient, but Jesus is not Eternal, Unchanging, Impassable, Infinite, Omnipresent, All-Powerful, All-Knowing, All-Wise, Infallible, Self-Existent, Self-Sufficient, Sovereign, or Immaterial.

And that is why Jesus cannot be God, since Jesus only has SOME of the Attributes of God, not ALL of the Attributes of God.

This is logic 101 stuff.
Agreed.
All man carry certain attributes as God, for we are all created in His image. We are told to be holy and perfect, as He is holy and perfect, and this is incumbent upon all of us.
There is only one divine Being in the entire universe and that is God the Father, and deifying any other being is blasphemy.
 

Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
What reliable evidence do you have that God made things which is sufficient to overturn the vast body of scientific evidence that things formed under their own properties, and perhaps equally importantly, are you even aware of the scientific evidence?
An impartial scientist would say that you cannot say from science one way or another. I am aware of the scientific basis for this.
 

Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
Jesus did everything His Father told Him and more, and no Sand Dancer I'm not Mormon, but a Christian

Walter
Whoa! That is insulting to Mormons, who consider themselves Christian. True, they do have some odd beliefs, and some additional texts they consider scripture in addition to the Bible. But I consider them Christian.
 

Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
Hello Sand Dancer,
Chris·tian
[ˈkrisCHən]

ADJECTIVE
  1. relating to or professing Christianity or its teachings:
    "the Christian Church" · "the Christian faith is based upon the Bible" · "Mendelssohn was inspired by both Jewish and Christian values"

NOUN


  1. a person who has received Christian baptism or is a believer in Christianity:
    "a born-again Christian"

    Love, Walter
Sounds like Mormons are Christian.
 
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