Religion and homosexuality

[Kerr]

War and pestilence can often have everything to do with a nation's values and their attitudes towards GOD.

Which can be discussed... in any case, it has nothing to do with people being gay.

 

[sandandfoam]

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Does a connection exist at all between the attacks (verbally, physically, institutionally) on homosexual people, with (Christian) religions? ​

I've been thinking a bit about Jesus and the kind of fella he was. He took the side of the women, the Samaritans etc. always went with the oppressed.
I have no doubt whatsoever if he were alive today he would be on the side of gay people and against those who espouse intolerance.

 

[Autodidact]

No, that appears to be your way of making light of what I said.

Then what was your point?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Oh, you know about my personal financials do you? and how the LDS Church budgets work?

You're right - it may have been a mistake to assume that you tithe. Do you?

You're also right that we don't have your knowledge of how LDS Church budgets work. Could you tell us which accounts would have been used for payroll for the staff who spent paid time on the Prop 8 campaign, or how these accounts are funded? Could you tell us who pays for the meeting house satellite dishes that were used to receive the Church simulcasts on Prop 8? Who paid for the satellite time for these broadcasts?

Auto asked if I donated money that would prevent my daughter's teacher from getting married. The answer is "incorrect."

I disagree. If you say that you didn't support the campaign directly, I have no reason to disbelieve you, but I strongly doubt that when a person made a tithe or a general donation to the LDS Church, none of that money went into fighting same-sex marriage.

 

[Autodidact]

War and pestilence can often have everything to do with a nation's values and their attitudes towards GOD.

Really? In what way? Lay it out for us. For example, are Christian countries more or less likely to engage in war than non-Christian countries? Do Christian countries have more or less plagues than non-Christian countries? What works better for preventing "pestilence," praying, or good public health practices?

 

[Mr Cheese]

same sex marriage of course promotes spandex

 

[Mr Cheese]

Really? In what way? Lay it out for us. For example, are Christian countries more or less likely to engage in war than non-Christian countries? Do Christian countries have more or less plagues than non-Christian countries? What works better for preventing "pestilence," praying, or good public health practices?

christian nations are generally more likely to have chickens
muslim countries tend to have small red furry balls that make good cat toys
Australia has dingos.

From this we can conclude that Jesus hated gay people

 

[LittleNipper]

Which can be discussed... in any case, it has nothing to do with people being gay.

Homosexuals are not gay. People who are happy and joyful are gay.

 

[Storm]

Homosexuals are not gay. People who are happy and joyful are gay.

1) Words change. Cope.

2) Plenty of homosexuals are happy and joyful.

 

[Kerr]

Homosexuals are not gay. People who are happy and joyful are gay.

Gay is a term that is often used in that context. Don´t try to twist the words around, the meaning is the same.

 

[LittleNipper]

Really? In what way? Lay it out for us. For example, are Christian countries more or less likely to engage in war than non-Christian countries? Do Christian countries have more or less plagues than non-Christian countries? What works better for preventing "pestilence," praying, or good public health practices?

I feel the reason for the Civil War was the direct result of the evil of slavery and how it was being misapplied. If blacks could be enslaved, there was no reason anyone could not be so enslaved. However, the Federal Government hand and hand with the states, were applying a double standard. The standard was that whites could not be slaves and whites were better than blacks. Neither of these points are true. That all men are created equal was not being applied to blacks...

 

[Mr Cheese]

Homosexuals are not gay. People who are happy and joyful are gay.

are you deliberatly being stupid or is you IQ under 100?

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–adjective 1.having or showing a merry, lively mood: gay spirits; gay music. 2.bright or showy: gay colors; gay ornaments. 3.given to or abounding in social or other pleasures: a gay social season. 4.licentious; dissipated; wanton: The baron is a gay old rogue with an eye for the ladies. 5.homosexual. 6.of, indicating, or supporting homosexual interests or issues: a gay organization.
–noun 7.a homosexual person, esp. a male.
–adverb 8.in a gay manner.

Origin:
1275–1325; 1950–55 for def. 5; ME gai < OF < Gmc; cf. OHG g&#257;hi fast, sudden

Related forms:
gayness, noun

Synonyms:
1. gleeful, jovial, glad, joyous, happy, cheerful, sprightly, blithe, airy, light-hearted; vivacious, frolicsome, sportive, hilarious. Gay, jolly, joyful, merry describe a happy or light-hearted mood. Gay suggests a lightness of heart or liveliness of mood that is openly manifested: when hearts were young and gay. Jolly indicates a good-humored, natural, expansive gaiety of mood or disposition: a jolly crowd at a party. Joyful suggests gladness, happiness, rejoicing: joyful over the good news. Merry is often interchangeable with gay: a merry disposition; a merry party; it suggests, even more than the latter, convivial animated enjoyment. 2. brilliant.


Antonyms:
1. unhappy, mournful.


Usage note:
In addition to its original and continuing senses of “merry, lively” and “bright or showy,” gay has had various senses dealing with sexual conduct since the 17th century. A gay woman was a prostitute, a gay man a womanizer, a gay house a brothel. This sexual world included homosexuals too, and gay as an adjective meaning “homosexual” goes back at least to the early 1900s. After World War II, as social attitudes toward sexuality began to change, gay was applied openly by homosexuals to themselves, first as an adjective and later as a noun. Today, the noun often designates only a male homosexual: gays and lesbians. The word has ceased to be slang and is not used disparagingly. Homosexual as a noun is sometimes used only in reference to a male.


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Gay

&#8194; &#8194;/ge&#618;/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [gey] Show IPA –noun 1.John, 1685–1732, English poet and dramatist.2.a female or male given name.





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Based on the Random House Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2010.

 

[Kerr]

It is curious that my country, which is not that Christian in nature, has done relatively well and have been involved in relatively few wars, compared to a lot of other countries. Including those that are "Christian".

 

[LittleNipper]

1) Words change. Cope.

2) Plenty of homosexuals are happy and joyful.

All the time and the majority of them? They look pretty sour when it comes to changing "marriage" to mean whatever with whomever...

 

[Mr Cheese]

I feel the reason for the Civil War was the direct result of the evil of slavery and how it was being misapplied. If blacks could be enslaved, there was no reason anyone could not be so enslaved. However, the Federal Government hand and hand with the states, were applying a double standard. The standard was that whites could not be slaves and whites were better than blacks. Neither of these points are true. That all men are created equal was not being applied to blacks...

Yes, if same sex couples are allowed to marry
We all know, people will want to marry their goldfish next!

Because white people had black slaves

That's logic:areyoucra

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

All the time and the majority of them?

Not the majority, but some of them. For instance, I know many religious people who have changed the definition of "religion" so that it no longer applies to them ("I'm not religious; I have a relationship")

They look pretty sour when it comes to changing "marriage" to mean whatever with whomever...

Extending marriage rights to same-sex couples does not change the definition of marriage.

 

[Autodidact]

Homosexuals are not gay. People who are happy and joyful are gay.

Good luck with your efforts to control how other people use words.

 

[Autodidact]

Homosexuals are not gay. People who are happy and joyful are gay.

How do you think we got the name?

 

[Kerr]

All the time and the majority of them? They look pretty sour when it comes to changing "marriage" to mean whatever with whomever...

Ohhh please, you are just avoiding a proper response.

 

[Mr Cheese]

Not the majority, but some of them. For instance, I know many religious people who have changed the definition of "religion" so that it no longer applies to them ("I'm not religious; I have a relationship")


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However, a dictionary is a dictionary....

blindly following a standard set by a book, should be something Little Nipper is familiar with :sarcastic