Religion and homosexuality

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Being a racist has nothing to do with being against homosexual marriage and the promotion of homosexual behavior. People are born red, yellow, black and white.
Homosexuality can be practised by anyone of any age of any ethnic group and look anyway they wish. Homosexuality is a behavior and not a birth right.

All behavior patterns can be changed. Druggies do not have to be... Drunks do not have to be. People who drink coffee do not have to. People who have sex, do not need to.

Same with religion. Same with political affiliation. It's not okay to discriminate against people for these things; what makes you think it's okay to discriminate against people for being homosexual?

The reality is that marriage is primarily for the sake of any begotten children. Homosexuals are unable to have children unless they go outside the parameters of homosexual behavior.

Same with many heterosexuals.

Humans are not bisexual, asexual, or homosexual. The only way humans can produce a baby is with one female's egg and one male's sperm.

This sounds dangerously close to a declaration that homosexual people aren't human. Do you care to re-phrase?

Maybe the comparisons to racism are closer to the mark that you suggest.

 

[Mr Cheese]

Being a racist has nothing to do with being against homosexual marriage and the promotion of homosexual behavior. People are born red, yellow, black and white.
Homosexuality can be practised by anyone of any age of any ethnic group and look anyway they wish. Homosexuality is a behavior and not a birth right.

All behavior patterns can be changed. Druggies do not have to be... Drunks do not have to be. People who drink coffee do not have to. People who have sex, do not need to.

The reality is that marriage is primarily for the sake of any begotten children. Homosexuals are unable to have children unless they go outside the parameters of homosexual behavior.

Humans are not bisexual, asexual, or homosexual. The only way humans can produce a baby is with one female's egg and one male's sperm.

We've already been over this
as long as you use the language of a bigot
you will be compared to one

As such you compared homosexuals to non humans
Horses in fact....

and have arguably hinted at the non human nature, in your view, of homosexuals in other posts in this and other threads

Bigotry is bigotry
If you don't wish to be seen as one
STOP using their cliches and hate filled "logic"

It's not rocket science.....:areyoucra

 

[Mr Cheese]

This sounds dangerously close to a declaration that homosexual people aren't human. Do you care to re-phrase?

Maybe the comparisons to racism are closer to the mark that you suggest.

et tu penguin!???

 

[Kerr]

Being a racist has nothing to do with being against homosexual marriage and the promotion of homosexual behavior. People are born red, yellow, black and white.
Homosexuality can be practised by anyone of any age of any ethnic group and look anyway they wish. Homosexuality is a behavior and not a birth right.

You do not really understand what homosexuality is. It is not just a way to behave, it is a preposition. If you are homosexual you have a preposition to be attracted to the same sex. That cannot just change.

Homosexuality is not a matter of birth right, no. Nor is hetrosexuality. What everything from gay rights to same sex marriage is about is freedom and the right to be who you are. The right to be different. The right to love and be loved. The right to decide to spend the rest of your life with the person you truly love.

All behavior patterns can be changed. Druggies do not have to be... Drunks do not have to be. People who drink coffee do not have to. People who have sex, do not need to.

People who have children, pray, go to church, marry and so on do not need to either. That does not mean that they shouldn´t do those things. Just as, if you don´t need to have sex (which is not that true, most of us needs sex on one level or another), it does not mean you shouldn´t have sex... and it doesn´t matter if it is the same or the oposite sex here.

Of course, it depends on how you define need. I would say that someone who denies they are a homosexual would actually need to be honest with themselves. For their own sake, denial is very unhealthy.

The reality is that marriage is primarily for the sake of any begotten children. Homosexuals are unable to have children unless they go outside the parameters of homosexual behavior.

There are many people who cannot have children that are allowed to marry. Personally, I view marriage as something more then just a thing that is about turning people into baby pooping machines. As I see it, love is the most important aspect of marriage. And yes, homosexuals can have children, ever heard of adoption?

Humans are not bisexual, asexual, or homosexual. The only way humans can produce a baby is with one female's egg and one male's sperm.

Lol, humans are very much bisexual, asexual and homosexual. Just as we are hetrosexual. It is an individual matter, not something that is decided on specie level. To be honest, it does not matter if some people are gay or bi or simply do not like sex for the survival of the specie. As long as enough people do have kids, that is enough. Anything other then that does not matter. Of course, I am not speaking morality now, sexuality is amoral, I am speaking of the stupid argument that we are ment to be hetro and can only survive by being hetro... that is false.

 

[Witch of Hope]

Homosexual sex does not make babies.
Therefore same-sex marriage is wrong.

Can you tell me what making babies has to do with a loving relationship between two people (gay or straight)?

 

[Witch of Hope]

Being a racist has nothing to do with being against homosexual marriage and the promotion of homosexual behavior. People are born red, yellow, black and white.
Homosexuality can be practised by anyone of any age of any ethnic group and look anyway they wish. Homosexuality is a behavior and not a birth right.

Homosexuals are the blacks/Afro-Americans of today. We didn't choose it to be hatred, to lost our jobs or to b punished and pushed around, or even raped or killed. We were born that way. My transsexualism wasn't a free choice, was was in my since i was born. Would do you like it to lost family, friends, jobs or church membership cause you were gay/transsexual? It ist stupid to believe so!

 

[Witch of Hope]

This sounds dangerously close to a declaration that homosexual people aren't human. Do you care to re-phrase?

I knew it! We came from outer space! We are aliens. But we look much better than E.T.! :yes:

 

[darkendless]

You make generalizations and have only your opinion. I believe anyone who would want to marry so that he/she could have sex whenever he/she wanted is a idiot and without scruples and is a poor example for children to follow... That's my opinion.

Prove me wrong.

Proving you wrong won't do anything. However, you are intolerant.

If you really do feel that way i'd feel sorry for you if it wasnt such a common opinion.

 

[Sunstone]

I believe anyone who would want to marry so that he/she could have sex whenever he/she wanted is a idiot and without scruples and is a poor example for children to follow... That's my opinion.

A man who believes that most certainly has a wife who is either uglier than sin or who sooner or later cheats on him.

Prove me wrong.

Why is that necessary? You are doing such an admirable job of it yourself.

 

[Autodidact]

Why do you think gay people want to get married, LittleNipper?

 

[LittleNipper]

Same with religion. Same with political affiliation. It's not okay to discriminate against people for these things; what makes you think it's okay to discriminate against people for being homosexual?


Same with many heterosexuals.


This sounds dangerously close to a declaration that homosexual people aren't human. Do you care to re-phrase?

Maybe the comparisons to racism are closer to the mark that you suggest.

The Democratic Convention is not going to throw open their doors to Republicans, anymore than Republicans are going to embrace Democrates at theirs... If that is discrimination, then it's already accepted by the powers that be for themselves...

Homosexuality isn't a human necessity for survival.

 

[Autodidact]

The Democratic Convention is not going to throw open their doors to Republicans, anymore than Republicans are going to embrace Democrates at theirs... If that is discrimination, then it's already accepted by the powers that be for themselves...

What on earth are you going on about?

Homosexuality isn't a human necessity for survival.

Well neither is Gospel Music or bagels, but I value them nonetheless.

 

[LittleNipper]

It would really be nice if things were that cut and dry..

If it is nice, why not at least try to encourage things in that direction... Why do we as a society seem bent on self destruction at the expense of our children.

 

[averageJOE]

If it is nice, why not at least try to encourage things in that direction... Why do we as a society seem bent on self destruction at the expense of our children.

So now homosexuals are trying to destroy society?

 

[LittleNipper]

What on earth are you going on about?


Well neither is Gospel Music or bagels, but I value them nonetheless.

"Discrimination" is not always a bad word. It depends on how it is applied and why.

 

[Kerr]

Homosexuality isn't a human necessity for survival.

There are a lot of things that are not. But this is not about the survival of the human race, it is about one of the most important values. Freedom.

 

[averageJOE]

Homosexuality isn't a human necessity for survival.

Neither is religion.

 

[Mr Cheese]

Homosexuality isn't a human necessity for survival.

Same sex couples getting married
may change birth rates?

Actually yes...
If one looks at modern science we are seeing contrary to "logic"
that "homosexuality" actually helps promote heterosexual tendencies in immediate family groups, siblings, children etc

actually, accordign to the science (which has been posted at the forum before, but you choose to ignore it)...homosexuality has links to making heterosexuals more apt to produce children..... illogical you may think, but nature has its own ways...and nature, having produced examples of homosexuality for millenia, is not scared or fearful of same sex unions, and in fact...uses them as a CATALYST

 

[Autodidact]

If it is nice, why not at least try to encourage things in that direction... Why do we as a society seem bent on self destruction at the expense of our children.

I agree. Why do heterosexuals continue to have children they're not prepared to take care of? Why do people advocate against same-sex parents adopting them and taking care of them? Why do people fight against building strong families for them, by letting their parents get married? It's a mystery to me. Can you explain it, LittleNipper?

 

[Autodidact]

"Discrimination" is not always a bad word. It depends on how it is applied and why.

Duh. Now explain why it is just or beneficial to discriminate against this group of citizens in a fundamental right. Go.