Religion and homosexuality

[LittleNipper]

Duh. Now explain why it is just or beneficial to discriminate against this group of citizens in a fundamental right. Go.

Example: A group believes in dog fights. A city ordinace says that dog fights are not permitted, because some people feel that such is not appropriate behavior.

 

[Autodidact]

Example: A group believes in dog fights. A city ordinace says that dog fights are not permitted, because some people feel that such is not appropriate behavior.

And this is relevant...how?
In addition, the city adopts an ordinance because of what "some people" feel? That's not really how democracy works.
Is dog-fighting a fundamental right?
Are any children harmed because their parents are not allowed to sponsor dog fights?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

The Democratic Convention is not going to throw open their doors to Republicans, anymore than Republicans are going to embrace Democrates at theirs...

But City Hall or the Capitol will readily accept either. If you get fired from your job for being a Democrat or a Republican, you can seek redress.

Homosexuality isn't a human necessity for survival.

Neither is religion. Neither is freedom. Neither are many things that we place great value on.

 

[averageJOE]

Example: A group believes in dog fights. A city ordinace says that dog fights are not permitted, because some people feel that such is not appropriate behavior.

EPIC FAIL!!

Auto asked why or how it's benificial to descriminate against gay people. And you bring up dog fighting????

 

[enchanted_one1975]

When in California the marriage was cancelled for homosexual people again (because of Prop 8), and the LDS "church" was involved in it, I put to myself some questions. A question was, why the religions fight so much against the marriage of homosexual people. Why they spend so much money to keep the civil rights from American citizens. Because to marry is a civil right. A religion has nothing to do with it.
An other question which I put to myself was, why just the LDS was so crazily to prevent gay rights? Is the LDS homophobic, although in their own church history many famous homosexual appeared? Or did they have fear that would be taken away a little bit of their rights, and they could be made accept such marriages ecclesiastically?
Does a connection exist at all between the attacks (verbally, physically, institutionally) on homosexual people, with (Christian) religions?
What do you mean?​

I think they are running out of things to complain about. Wait until the ACLU realizes that LDS is getting involved in a movement against people outside of its own organization. Then the motion gets filed to remove LDS's status as a non-profit organization. They will then have to pay tax on all donations received. In turn, they wind up being able to complain about that. They will, of course, blame homosexual people for their having to pay taxes by the time it is all through.

 

[Mr Cheese]

Example: A group believes in dog fights. A city ordinace says that dog fights are not permitted, because some people feel that such is not appropriate behavior.

again comparing homosexuality to non humans huh

And yet you still claim to not be a bigot, while using the language of one...

 

[Kerr]

Example: A group believes in dog fights. A city ordinace says that dog fights are not permitted, because some people feel that such is not appropriate behavior.

But it does not matter if you are a part of that group or not... discrimination means that the groups are not treated the same way. In your example, it would be discrimination to make it illegal for that group to have dog fights but allow the rest.

 

[McBell]

Homosexuality isn't a human necessity for survival.

Neither is marriage.
Because you do not have to be married to have children.
Don't believe me?
Please note the number of children born out wedlock.

 

[LittleNipper]

And this is relevant...how?
In addition, the city adopts an ordinance because of what "some people" feel? That's not really how democracy works.
Is dog-fighting a fundamental right?
Are any children harmed because their parents are not allowed to sponsor dog fights?

I find it funny that people seem to care more for someone else's dog than they care about their own bodies. I believe children are impressed by the behavior patterns of everyone around them. So if society says, who cares about marriage? The children will likely grow up with the notion that marriage is worthless. If society says anyone can do what they please and call it marriage, then the children at large will likely treat marriage with the same contempt.

Let's face reality, Nazi Germany very quickly changed playmates into adversaries, simply by taking over the education system. The United States really already controls the public school system. Just like the Nazis, all they'd need to do would be to close the private schools and tell all the children exactly what the government wants everyone to accept. Where sin is concerned, the change will likely take affect over night...

 

[Mr Cheese]

I find it funny that people seem to care more for someone else's dog than they care about their own bodies. I believe children are impressed by the behavior patterns of everyone around them. So if society says, who cares about marriage? The children will likely grow up with the notion that marriage is worthless. If society says anyone can do what they please and call it marriage, then the children at large will likely treat marriage with the same contempt.

Let's face reality, Nazi Germany very quickly changed playmates into adversaries, simply by taking over the education system. The United States really already controls the public school system. Just like the Nazis, all they'd need to do would be to close the private schools and tell all the children exactly what the government wants everyone to accept. Where sin is concerned, the change will likely take affect over night...

mass genocide had nothign to do with people's ultimate sentiment about the Nazis huh?

Hmm lets see...

I'm betting you actually think Adolf Hitler did some good....

and you STILL want us to beleive you are not a hate filled bigot?

The Nazi symbol for homosexuals...
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/images/pink-triangle.jpg

 

[LittleNipper]

Neither is marriage.
Because you do not have to be married to have children.
Don't believe me?
Please note the number of children born out wedlock.

And you would encourage marrige to be more screwed up so those who have developed sexual fettishs can get married and feel like normal?

 

[Demonic Kitten]

And you would encourage marrige to be more screwed up so those who have developed sexual fettishs can get married and feel like normal?

So you're saying that being homosexual is nothing more than a sexual fetish? I bet you think being bisexual is a sexual fetish as well.

I have to say that if that is your idea of a sexual fetish then your idea of sex must be pretty boring.

 

[LittleNipper]

mass genocide had nothign to do with people's ultimate sentiment about the Nazis huh?

Hmm lets see...

I'm betting you actually think Adolf Hitler did some good....

and you STILL want us to beleive you are not a hate filled bigot?

The Nazi symbol for homosexuals...

What is funny, is that among the Nazi were not just a few homosexuals who labelled those who wouldn't co-operate with the regime. Not every guy wearing that emblem was actually a homosexual...................... Often, it was some poor guy who refused to cooperate with the SS. They did have nifty uniforms, don't you think?

 

[Mr Cheese]

And you would encourage marrige to be more screwed up so those who have developed sexual fettishs can get married and feel like normal?

That does not change the fact, that you dont actually need to be married to produce children

the point being, the thing you are advocating is total garbage

But you can dodge and skirt around the issue all you like

 

[Autodidact]

I find it funny that people seem to care more for someone else's dog than they care about their own bodies. I believe children are impressed by the behavior patterns of everyone around them. So if society says, who cares about marriage? The children will likely grow up with the notion that marriage is worthless.

You're absolutely right. The people who are denying marriage rights to this category of citizens are providing very bad role models for our children.

If society says anyone can do what they please and call it marriage, then the children at large will likely treat marriage with the same contempt.

Fortunately, no one is advocating this.

Let's face reality, Nazi Germany very quickly changed playmates into adversaries, simply by taking over the education system. The United States really already controls the public school system. Just like the Nazis, all they'd need to do would be to close the private schools and tell all the children exactly what the government wants everyone to accept. Where sin is concerned, the change will likely take affect over night...

 

[Autodidact]

And you would encourage marrige to be more screwed up so those who have developed sexual fettishs can get married and feel like normal?

I have bad news for you. Most people with sexual fetishes are already married.

 

[Mr Cheese]

What is funny, is that among the Nazi were not just a few homosexuals who labelled those who wouldn't co-operate with the regime. Not every guy wearing that emblem was actually a homosexual...................... Often, it was some poor guy who refused to cooperate with the SS. They did have nifty uniforms, don't you think?

So you do agree with the nazis huh? We should exterminante certain members of society (I'll refrain from sayign human race, as I think we have established firmly that you don't consider homosexuals to be human)...so that good breeding married couples could continue to carry on your values?

 

[Autodidact]

What is funny, is that among the Nazi were not just a few homosexuals who labelled those who wouldn't co-operate with the regime. Not every guy wearing that emblem was actually a homosexual...................... Often, it was some poor guy who refused to cooperate with the SS. They did have nifty uniforms, don't you think?

Bad news, Little--the Nazi's were on your side. They were anti-gay too. They didn't just kill Jews; they killed gay people too.

 

[Kerr]

I find it funny that people seem to care more for someone else's dog than they care about their own bodies.

Maybe I am just tired, but are you saying people who are pro gay marriage and anti dog fighting are caring more about dogs then about peoples health? If so, that would imply you somehow consider that people that accept that they are gay damage their own body more then hetros... which is not true.

I believe children are impressed by the behavior patterns of everyone around them. So if society says, who cares about marriage? The children will likely grow up with the notion that marriage is worthless. If society says anyone can do what they please and call it marriage, then the children at large will likely treat marriage with the same contempt.

The notion of marriage is hardly made worthless because gay people can marry. It actually makes the notion worth more, since it means marriage may finally be a union between two people who truly loves each other and want to spend the rest of their lives together, no matter what sex they are of.

 

[Kerr]

And you would encourage marrige to be more screwed up so those who have developed sexual fettishs can get married and feel like normal?

And you would encourage marriage to be more screwed up so that people are forced into marriages with people they hate and then have to pray God for forgiveness for having desire for the person they actually love?

Of course, that is a ******** argument, but so is yours. Like the talk about sexual fettishs or feeling normal.