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Religious Nationalism in the US

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Asbury University student tells emotional story about regaining Christian faith amid revival: ‘I resented God’

'It felt like God was telling me this is what you've been missing,' Gracie Turner said of the revival.



Good for Gracie, finding something that brings hope or peace in a complex and difficult life!

Is Gracie a Christian Nationalist? I don't believe her return to Christianity is what is best for everyone. Just because one person needs glasses doesn't mean everyone does or that everyone who needs glasses require the same prescription.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
Good for Gracie, finding something that brings hope or peace in a complex and difficult life!

Is Gracie a Christian Nationalist? I don't believe her return to Christianity is what is best for everyone. Just because one person needs glasses doesn't mean everyone does or that everyone who needs glasses require the same prescription.

It represents one less angry antichrist which is progress for the world.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I think the difference between disciples of Jesus and socialists is this:
Disciples of Jesus want to help others freely, because they think it is good. And they don't want to be burden to others.
If that would actually work, I'd be all for it, but history has shown us that it clearly doesn't.

For just one example, charities during rough times tend to dry up as people who normally would donate are often fearful of losing their jobs. Deaths from starvation in Appalachia and the Navaho Res. occurred in the late 1950's, so if charity supposedly worked, why did these children die?

Socialists think other people must help them, give them everything, while they are not ready to do anything for others, nor to themselves.
Using a stereotype like this is unconscionable, and you should be ashamed of stooping to such a low. And as I posted last, you are clearing dissing what Jesus taught and elevating $ to deity levels.

Both may have the idea of helping others, the former just think others should be for them, while disciples of Jesus think they should take care of themselves and then be able to help also others.
That is so utterly pathetic as you again resort to using a stereotype.

No, a disciple of Christ puts God and people first, not $.
 

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
Killing for spilled seed, killing women who aren't virgins, this sex is wrong, that sex is bad, and often times don't enjoy it because it's strictly for reproduction. Do it as we approve (which has included barring certain positions) or you're doing it wrong and in a way that offends god. Don't have sex with this person or god gets offended. Don't have sex for fun outside of marriage or god will roast you.
And let's not forget America is well known for being sexually repressed throughout the Western world.
Christians saying that abstinence is 100% effective and not seeing the irony.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
no argument there. That is why parents want some books removed from the school library
And they should step aside amd defer to those such as educators, child psychologists and experts in the field. Parents do not own their children and it's past time we start recognizing children as individuals who are not bound to their parents wants for them. It's detrimental to the kids, it's detrimental to society.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
And they should step aside amd defer to those such as educators, child psychologists and experts in the field. Parents do not own their children and it's past time we start recognizing children as individuals who are not bound to their parents wants for them. It's detrimental to the kids, it's detrimental to society.
I would respectfully disagree. We are not a communist state that own the children.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I would respectfully disagree. We are not a communist state that own the children.
Allowing kids to decide for themselves isn't the state owning it. If a child wants an education the parents should not be able to say no. If a child wants a vaccine a parent should not be able to say no. If a child wants to be a different religion the parents should understand why no is a terrible answer.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
So did everyone else who wasn’t clinically dead. Chop off Jesus’ head and there would be no resurrection story.
If you read all the way through the story the Roman guards made sure that the mortal body of Jesus was dead. That was their job. His body was entombed. After 3 days he reappeared in a new form.

The guards saw the stone tomb door roll away apparently on its own. Celestial beings were moving it. They freaked and ran back to town. They were bribed to keep it all on the down low!

Jesus appeared a number of times to different groups of people before returning to his place in heaven.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Allowing kids to decide for themselves isn't the state owning it. If a child wants an education the parents should not be able to say no. If a child wants a vaccine a parent should not be able to say no. If a child wants to be a different religion the parents should understand why no is a terrible answer.
yes it is.

1) Most children would rather stay home and play. Parents are the ones that say "You are getting an education
2) A child has no understanding about vaccines and much less when they are born. It is the parent that says "Get a vaccine" and "No, you are not getting a Covid vaccine (or yes)" because they don't know or understand the ramifications of it.
3) A child has no idea about religions. It is the parent that leads and guides until they are old enough to make a decision for themselves (which they do and I did)

So, "no" to the state owning the child or its future. It is called "freedom".
 

Sand Dancer

Currently catless
I think the difference between disciples of Jesus and socialists is this:
Disciples of Jesus want to help others freely, because they think it is good. And they don't want to be burden to others.
Socialists think other people must help them, give them everything, while they are not ready to do anything for others, nor to themselves.

Both may have the idea of helping others, the former just think others should be for them, while disciples of Jesus think they should take care of themselves and then be able to help also others.
But many DOJ don't. They only want to help saints, not sinners. They discriminate a lot. Socialists want everyone to be happy, healthy and safe.
 
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