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Report reveals the truth behind the international dupe on Palestinian poverty.

every day we here how poor the Arab Palestinians are, how they have nothing and are kept in poverty by the "occupation." But, although the lie is endlessly repeated it is not true.

“Occupied Palestine” Has More BMWs, Mercedes on Streets than Jerusalem and Tel Aviv

A recent report published by the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs (JCPA) brings to light some painfully glaring contrasts developing amongst the ranks of the Palestinian Authority.

While many left-wing and human rights groups blame the Israeli “occupation” for poor living conditions in Gaza and Palestinian-controlled areas of Judea and Samaria, the report paints a picture of a new class of Palestinians living in comfort and even luxury in a fast-developing society where literacy is high, infant mortality is low and citizens are happier than most Americans.

The report, entitled “Luxury Alongside Poverty in the Palestinian Authority”, explores the contradictions between a world narrative regarding the plight of the Palestinian “refugee” population and the realities of Palestinian daily life.

These realities for today’s Palestinian refugees are cushioned by billions of dollars of international aid which have gone towards improving conditions in refugee camps since 1948. The PA receives approximately $2 billion in aid annually from the UN, the US and other governmental bodies. Economic analysts estimate that the PA has received a total of $25 billion in foreign aid since the establishment of Palestinian self-rule in parts of Judea, Samaria and Gaza in the mid-1990’s.

Though much of this aid has been siphoned off by corrupt PA leadership to build luxurious homes and governmental buildings, the effects of the funds are visible in both refugee camps and in the building up of Palestinian towns and cities throughout the PA.

A typical refugee “camp shelter” generally consists of a 4-5 story concrete apartment building with electricity, satellite television and municipal garbage collection.
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In contrast to the dismal images of poverty, oppression and despair projected onto the world stage by the PA and its advocates, the report digests empirical data which reveals another picture entirely.

Some of the facts uncovered would probably shock a consumer of the mainstream media narrative. According to the CIA World Factbook, the poverty rate in Palestinian-controlled areas was reported at 18 percent in 2011, a number actually lower than Israel’s 2012 poverty rate of 21 percent.

Life expectancy, which is 70 years on average worldwide, was 76 years for Palestinians in 2015. For contrast, the 2012 average life expectancy in other Arab states was 71 years. In 2015, the infant mortality rate in Palestinian areas and Gaza was 13 per 1,000 live births, significantly better than the 27 per 1,000 live births in other Arab states and 36.58 per 1,000 live births worldwide.

Palestinians also surpass other populations in education and literacy. In 2011, 63.5 percent of Arabs said they were satisfied with their education system, a higher percentage than people living in the US (62.8), Netherlands (60.3), Sweden (61.6) and Japan (54.6), and much higher than the overall percentage in Arab states, which was 50 percent. The average literacy rate for people aged 15 and above in Palestinian cities and Gaza was 96.5 percent in 2015.
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In another surprising reveal, the report cites the 2012 Happy Planet Index, which is a survey conducted by the New Economics Forum to measure happiness around the world. Out of 20 Arab countries, the Palestinian Authority ranked third happiest, but even more shockingly, it ranked 30th happiest worldwide, placing it above the US, the UK, Sweden, Australia and Canada.

As the report concludes, there is considerable wealth and a much higher living standard in “occupied” Palestine than PA leaders and pro-Palestinian activists would have the world believe.


Read more at https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/...l-aviv-judea-and-samaria/#iT02GZr0dOSKsIWU.99


There are actual problems in Israel and in the PA. Perhaps the "pro-Palestinian activists" could concentrate on actual problems instead of fake ones? Of course, that would require them to actually take an interest in the Arab Palestinians and acknowledge facts.
 
Lyndon - Do facts bother you that much? You can confirm the facts I posted if you want. It is not really hard to do. If you find any thing you actually dispute, let me know and please cite your sources. Thanks
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
So taking their land and killing them isn't enough, lets start sprouting childish crap to further justify your crimes and terrorism.

You are a fine example of a Yahudi.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
Believe what you wish. I have been to Palestine, I saw everything with my own eyes. And to have a pathetic thread like this telling us about how Palestinians live a life of luxury is plain pathetic and a cheap shot. It's called having too much free time and not knowing how to waste it. So what do you do, you go and further vilify a group of people who know nothing other than oppression and terrorism from government level terrorists down to you pathetic low lives. .
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Its called propaganda, the Zionists learned a lot from the Nazis, in some ways they are not very different.
 
Gahrib - No, Either you have never been to Israel (there is no Palestine and never has been) or Jordan (the Arab Palestinian State) or you are telling lies. Whichever, it really does not matter. The facts are the facts. Neither you nor Lyndon have provided any actual refutation of the facts, you have merely resorted to name calling. There is a reason that you have done what you have done. When you figure out the reason, you will be on the way to understanding.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
Gahrib - No, Either you have never been to Israel (there is no Palestine and never has been) or Jordan (the Arab Palestinian State) or you are telling lies. Whichever, it really does not matter. The facts are the facts. Neither you nor Lyndon have provided any actual refutation of the facts, you have merely resorted to name calling. There is a reason that you have done what you have done. When you figure out the reason, you will be on the way to understanding.

It's Israel that I haven't been to. I have been to Jordan, have been to Palestine. I prayed in Al Aqsa and Masjid Ibrahim. Went through Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Hebron and everything in between.

I didn't see any of this fantasy luxury that you speak of. I did see terrorists having erected 2-3 metre walls all over the place and set up check points in every place that they could fit their behind. And taking Palestinian land by force. I saw a lot of other things. But not the pathetic crap that you speak of.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
In 1991, I traveled with about 30 others from Bethlehem up along the west bank of the Jordan River to Jericho and then Nazareth and then eventually to the edge of the Golan Heights whereas I stayed for a couple of days. Before I did that, I spend three days visiting eastern Jerusalem, which is the Palestinian area of that city, taking the Palestinian buses and stopping every now and then to catch the sights.

Was there poverty? Yes, by western standards. Was it dire poverty? None that I saw. However, I did not tour the GS, which I know has much more of the poverty, but that's always been true there with a high percentage of that population.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
In 1991, I traveled with about 30 others from Bethlehem up along the west bank of the Jordan River to Jericho and then Nazareth and then eventually to the edge of the Golan Heights whereas I stayed for a couple of days. Before I did that, I spend three days visiting eastern Jerusalem, which is the Palestinian area of that city, taking the Palestinian buses and stopping every now and then to catch the sights.

Was there poverty? Yes, by western standards. Was it dire poverty? None that I saw. However, I did not tour the GS, which I know has much more of the poverty, but that's always been true there with a high percentage of that population.

I was there almost 4 years ago now. It is very bad. A whole neighbourhood was completely shut because your government wouldn't allow growth. It had taken the land from most of the people, and they had been forced to leave and seek work. Left homes behind all empty. There were only about 5-8 children that I saw in a neighbourhood near Masjid Ibrahim. And a very old souvenir shop that relied on foreigners to stop by and buy something.

Add on top of that the fact that they are not permitted to export their produce, they get lined up for weeks at the border until their harvest becomes rotten and the drivers turn back without even crossing.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I was there almost 4 years ago now. It is very bad. A whole neighbourhood was completely shut because your government wouldn't allow growth. It had taken the land from most of the people, and they had been forced to leave and seek work. Left homes behind all empty. There were only about 5-8 children that I saw in a neighbourhood near Masjid Ibrahim. And a very old souvenir shop that relied on foreigners to stop by and buy something.

Add on top of that the fact that they are not permitted to export their produce, they get lined up for weeks at the border until their harvest becomes rotten and the drivers turn back without even crossing.
The borders open and close depending on the threat caused by events. I did not visit Hebron when there, so I can't speak to that, but there obviously has been some serious conflicts there, so what you say doesn't surprise me. The unfortunate reality is that war has consequences for both sides.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
every day we here how poor the Arab Palestinians are, how they have nothing and are kept in poverty by the "occupation." But, although the lie is endlessly repeated it is not true.
For the last 25 years or so I have been trying to understand the situation between Israel and the Palestinians. One of the biggest barriers is the near absence of unbiased reports. It just seems to be impossible to find actual information.
I do know that there are worse places to be, and the most dire reports are likely just as biased as yours. But the premise that Palestinian people are living fat on donated money is too farfetched for belief, IMHO.
It would take a lot more evidence.
Tom
 
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Please watch this if you wish to begin to understand the anti-Israel posters here and the anti-Israel folks generally.
It explains the root of their opposition to Israel and their inability to deal with actual facts, especially those which contradict their predetermined beliefs.
 
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