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[Argentbear]

Examining whether Black Lives Matter is a Marxist movement

Backlash against Black Lives Matter includes branding it as Marxist. The attack has been made in recent weeks by Rudy Gi

www.politifact.com

your own link disagrees with you and notes that the individuals claiming that BLM is Marxist include prominent racists.

 

[Twilight Hue]

your own link disagrees with you and notes that the individuals claiming that BLM is Marxist include prominent racists.

No it does not. It does have updates from its original form to what it is today in light it was called out as a Marxist movement and offered a two side perspective.

Frankly I don't trust the organization as being anything other then a push for Marxist governance.

 

[Argentbear]

No it does not. It does have updates from its original form to what it is today in light it was called out as a Marxist movement and offered a two side perspective.

Frankly I don't trust the organization as being anything other then a push for Marxist governance.

you link says that BLM has been branded as Marxist "The attack has been made in recent weeks by Rudy Giuliani, President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer; Ben Carson, Trump’s secretary of Housing and Urban Development; conservative talk show host Mark Levin; and PragerU,"

"There are definitely socialists within the movement, as there have been in every single social movement in 20th century American history and today. But that does not make those socialist movements, it makes them mass movements,"

"Black Lives Matter’s "emphatic support for gender identity politics sets it apart from historical Marxism,"

"the goals listed on its website do not appear to be expressly anti-capitalist, which would arguably be a Marxist identifier,"

"I am fairly convinced these are mostly attempts to smear anti-racist activists. I think in some media, ‘Marxist’ is dog-whistle for something horrible, like ‘Nazi’, and thus enables to delegitimize/dehumanize them," Miriyam Aouragh"

 

[Twilight Hue]

you link says that BLM has been branded as Marxist "The attack has been made in recent weeks by Rudy Giuliani, President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer; Ben Carson, Trump’s secretary of Housing and Urban Development; conservative talk show host Mark Levin; and PragerU,"

"There are definitely socialists within the movement, as there have been in every single social movement in 20th century American history and today. But that does not make those socialist movements, it makes them mass movements,"

"Black Lives Matter’s "emphatic support for gender identity politics sets it apart from historical Marxism,"

"the goals listed on its website do not appear to be expressly anti-capitalist, which would arguably be a Marxist identifier,"

"I am fairly convinced these are mostly attempts to smear anti-racist activists. I think in some media, ‘Marxist’ is dog-whistle for something horrible, like ‘Nazi’, and thus enables to delegitimize/dehumanize them," Miriyam Aouragh"

Those are just the counterpoints.

The actual statements by the founding organizers are totally different.

 

[Pogo]

Blm did far more damage.

Black Lives Matter is/was a general movement, it never had any sort of formal leadership, that any particular persons as part of this movement express personal backgrounds does not necessarily reflect on all but then you know that because just because you object to democrats you don't agree with some that they are inhuman.

 

[Revoltingest]

Trump along with his son, actually called for a peaceful protest.

You're thinking only of the insurrection.
Not of...
- Fake electors
- Ordering Pence to over-turn the election.
- Threatening Secretaries of State with prosecution if they don't "find" the needed votes.

Had he staged his coup successfully,
it could've meant widespread violence.

 

[Twilight Hue]

You're thinking only of the insurrection.
Not of...
- Fake electors
- Ordering Pence to over-turn the election.
- Threatening Secretaries of State with prosecution if they don't "find" the needed votes.

Had he staged his coup successfully,
it could've meant widespread violence.

That's just what you think, not what really actually happened.

Conspiracies abound everywhere.

 

[Soandso]

That's just what you think, not what really actually happened.

Conspiracies abound everywhere.

When court proceedings, prosecutions, and testimonies from the vice president himself are "conspiracies"

Trump fake electors plot - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/in-recorded-call-trump-pressures-georgia-official-to-find-votes-to-overturn-e-idUSKBN2980MD/

What Trump Asked of Pence - FactCheck.org

In an interview hours after former President Donald Trump was indicted for an alleged conspiracy to overturn the 2020 presidential election, one of his attorneys said that all Trump had ultimately asked his vice president to do was "simply pause” the Electoral College count at the U.S. Capitol...

www.factcheck.org

 

[Revoltingest]

That's just what you think, not what really actually happened.

Are you claiming that none of those things happened?

 

[Argentbear]

Those are just the counterpoints.

The actual statements by the founding organizers are totally different.

quote them

 

[Twilight Hue]

quote them

Stop playing dumb. You see the videos themselves saying they are trained Marxists from their own mouth.

 

[Pogo]

Stop playing dumb. You see the videos themselves saying they are trained Marxists from their own mouth.

Marx has been dead for more than a few years, please link us to evidence of this Marx training academy. LOL

 

[Twilight Hue]

Marx has been dead for more than a few years, please link us to evidence of this Marx training academy. LOL

You are a communist. You tell me instead of being snarky about why they openly said they are trained Marxists if it has nothing to do with the movement.

 

[Argentbear]

Stop playing dumb. You see the videos themselves saying they are trained Marxists from their own mouth.

I'm a trained behaviorist. But I am not a behaviorist it's just my educational background and it has nothing to do with my job or my life.

Where has Patrisse Cullors said "I am a Marxist"?
Where has she said she is a communist?
Where in the whole organization of BLM is there any Marxist goals or policies?

nowhere
nowhere
and nowhere

 

[Twilight Hue]

I'm a trained behaviorist. But I am not a behaviorist it's just my educational background and it has nothing to do with my job or my life.

Where has Patrisse Cullors said "I am a Marxist"?
Where has she said she is a communist?
Where in the whole organization of BLM is there any Marxist goals or policies?

nowhere
nowhere
and nowhere

I already posted a response about defunding the police and being anti-capitalist so stop saying there is nothing because there is.

Everybody knows you're in denial.

 

[Pogo]

You are a communist. You tell me instead of being snarky about why they openly said they are trained Marxists if it has nothing to do with the movement.

There is no Marx training school, Karl Marx was an economist just like the people who taught Trumps economic classes who are far more likely to have read Marx's books beyond a pamphlet.
They said they were trained marxists because it sounded good as a rebellious statement with no more reality behind it than Trump's claims of Haitians eating pets.

BTW, Marx's theory was a discussion of why there is a class divide between people like you and me and those with the money who control everything, you might even agree with much of what he said if you actually read it.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Why should race matter when both people in the OP are born in the same country?

It's because he saw someone who doesn't look like him on the outside assumed she isn't where she came from.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I already posted a response about defunding the police and being anti-capitalist so stop saying there is nothing because there is.

Everybody knows you're in denial.

There is no Marxist training, especially not in the sense one gets trained to become an electrician or psychiatrist.
And there's nothing Marxist that gets into defund the police. I take from Marx (notice how I tend to make a lot of things about class?) and I see that's a dumb idea that fails to realize the problem has nothing to do with money.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Trump along with his son, actually called for a peaceful protest.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-calls-peace-tells-protesters-go-home-2021-01-06/

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This is wrong and not who we are. Be peaceful and use your 1st Amendment rights, but don’t start acting like the other side. We have a country to save and this doesn’t help anyone.

Compare that to the amount of times he told people to fight and used emotionally charged language to stir fear and outrage.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Compare that to the amount of times he told people to fight and used emotionally charged language to stir fear and outrage.

Nothing wrong with that. It's not Trump's fault if some dumbass people decide to take things into their own hands.