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RF and Mental Health

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
The reason i have written the answer the way i did was because RF feels more and more like AF (atheists forum) and there is little to no reason to discuss spiritual lifestyle in here anymore.

I've been on revleft.com and hung around far left online communities. I'm familiar with some of the far right ones as well, though I've never been a regular on them. So I have a fairly high tolerance for controversial subjects and i'm willing to debate almost anything in good faith. I'm generally better with one-on-one discussions because you get to know a person, their stories and experience that has brought them to that viewpoint. It tends to make it easier to communicate and bridge major ideological gulfs if you know where someone is coming from. You can usually find me sitting in my bedroom reading some Marxist tract or even a share of Nazi and Fascist literature. This year I glanced at some material on southern defences of slavery in the run up to the civil war, something I would never have touched a few years back.

Being on religious forums now, I'm just haunted by a feeling a creeping unease and alarm and the nagging sense that there really is no limit to what people will do or say. Given my background is some of the most politically extreme online communities there is, that has been ringing alarm bells on and off for a very long time. With coronavirus, now it's in over drive and won't shut up.

My conscience wants me to ring the alarm bells and warn people about what kind of stuff they are now regularly debating and getting involved with. But then only a handful of people would believe me or take me seriously. They don't have the same experiences or context to see how I might have developed that perspective. So I feel conflicted about caring for the community and wanting to defend myself from other people's behaviour. I think there are some major life lessons about dealing with toxic relationships buried in this somewhere, but ...*shrugs*... I don't know. It's a weird kind of emotional vulnerability mixed in there along with a hefty amount of maturity as well. I don't understand it very well.
 
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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
What about using the Conversation function more? You can have up to five people in each one and it's private.
I only use PM for talking to mods, or answering question asked to me. I do not want to limited to feel free by hiding in private messages, RF is for spiritual growth, not for tearing it down.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I only use PM for talking to mods, or answering question asked to me. I do not want to limited to feel free by hiding in private messages, RF is for spiritual growth, not for tearing it down.
If you were to converse only in PMs, I'd be miffed.
 

MNoBody

Well-Known Member
Well why is it the spiritual people who have to leave a religious forum when it is the atheists who make it uncomfortable to stay there and discuss religious topics. That is my Main rant of the week.
because there is one group that wants demonstration for that which is difficult if even possible at all for the other group to demonstrate on command, that just makes dialogue awkward so the people looking for answers will go away from those who challenge that there isn't any and suggest strongly that they are nutz for even looking any further....
[an observation from the balcony]
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
because there is one group that wants demonstration for that which is difficult if even possible at all for the other group to demonstrate on command, that just makes dialogue awkward so the people looking for answers will go away from those who challenge that there isn't any and suggest strongly that they are nutz for even looking any further....
[an observation from the balcony]
Maybe i am a nutcase from time to time :) but i dont need an atheist to crack my nut...so to speak:p
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
Should i ignore more or less all Atheists except for @ChristineM Then? At least she has a good sense of how to use language Even she dont agree with my spiritual views from time to time. Or most of the time :confused::oops:

You can technically ignore anyone you want to without even using the ignore button. Any more I don't respond if I don't want to be trapped into a discussion I don't agree with.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Should i ignore more or less all Atheists except for @ChristineM Then? At least she has a good sense of how to use language Even she dont agree with my spiritual views from time to time. Or most of the time :confused::oops:

You are welcome to any spiritual views you like, as i am welcome ( i hope) to not have a spiritual bone in my body.

Thanks for to pat in the back for my language, it really does mean a lot more than you can imagine
 
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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
You are welcome to any spiritual views you like, as i am welcome ( i hope) to not have a spiritual bone in my body.

Thanks for to pat in the back for my language, it really does mean a lot more than you can imagine
Yes you are welcome to have your non spiritual view :) just as any other atheist are, but you at least have nice words even when we disagree, that unfortunatly is not the case with all other people.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Yes you are welcome to have your non spiritual view :) just as any other atheist are, but you at least have nice words even when we disagree, that unfortunatly is not the case with all other people.



How many times gave you been told by an atheist that you and your children will burn in hell?

Believe me other people can and mostly are religious people. But we never see the bad in our own side do we?
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The reason i have written the answer the way i did was because RF feels more and more like AF (atheists forum) and there is little to no reason to discuss spiritual lifestyle in here anymore.
Just remember, a lot of atheists are ex-Christian fundamentalists, and evangelizing of rationalism seems to be the classic case of taking the boy out of the country, but not taking the country out of the boy, as the saying goes. Ya have to kind forgive 'em, as they'd say. ;)

Regardless of that. I always enjoy your posts and your explorations. Not everyone thinks they have no value. I certainly find value in them. I respect your path.
 
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Secret Chief

Vetted Member
I only use PM for talking to mods, or answering question asked to me. I do not want to limited to feel free by hiding in private messages, RF is for spiritual growth, not for tearing it down.
I just thought a group of five that didn't wind you up might be another option. How many people post on your threads? More than five? How many do you wish didn't post on your threads?
It doesn't have to be either/or.
 
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PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
The more I try to carefully think it over, the more I think that, respectfully, the atheists are actually the minority here, but when we consider liberalism, people who are left wing, including theists, are the majority here.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Hey everyone,

Recently, I've found it difficult to ignore much of the divisive political discussions we've been having on the forum. It's becoming much harder given the situation in the U.S.A and with coronavirus raging. It is particularly difficult given that many of these discussions now deal with life-and-death issues (such as how and why to end lock-down). In the polarised climate that we have today, it's often hard to appreciate nuance and subtly and it very taxing on the nerves and this seems to be a personal trigger for me.

I suspect I'm far from alone in this so I would welcome other people's thoughts on how RF is affecting your mental health at the moment. Are other users having a similar experience and if so, how are you finding ways of coping with it?

Bro, try thinking of RF as an online bull session about god, horniness, and pizza that is being conducted on the intellectual and emotional level of a high school athletics club.

You won't be far off.
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Well why is it the spiritual people who have to leave a religious forum when it is the atheists who make it uncomfortable to stay there and discuss religious topics. That is my Main rant of the week.
Not all of us are out to be self-righteous paragons of logic and truth. Both atheist and theist alike. Try to remember that. I know not everyone gives you a reason to.
 
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