Richard Dawkins hasn't read the Quran yet.

[Sees]

I would wager most of the people who do not like the Qur'an do not do most or any of that stuff.

The quran mentioned about how evil people looks like.

And do not commit adultery – for, behold, it is an abomination and an evil way. (17:32)

1 - They like prostitution and they use condoms to protect themselves from STD

And say: My Lord! I seek refuge in Thee from suggestions of the evil ones, (23:97)

So enter the gates of hell, to dwell therein for ever. Woeful indeed will be the lodging of the arrogant. (16:29)

2- They are arrogants

O mankind! Eat of that which is lawful and wholesome in the earth, and follow not the footsteps of the devil. Lo! he is an open enemy for you. (2:168)

He enjoineth upon you only the evil and the foul, and that ye should tell concerning Allah that which ye know not. (2:169)

3- They try to guide people to the filthy way of life away of God's commandments

And when it is said unto him: Be careful of thy duty to Allah, pride taketh him to sin. Hell will settle his account, an evil resting-place. (2:206)

But [remember that an attempt at] requiting evil may, too, become an evil: hence, whoever pardons [his foe] and makes peace, his reward rests with God – for, verily, He does not love evildoers. (42:40)

O ye who believe! Strong drink and games of chance and idols and divining arrows are only an infamy of Satan's handiwork. Leave it aside in order that ye may succeed. (5:90)

4 - They like wine and drugs

"Verily, you do sodomy with men, and rob the wayfarer (travellers, etc.)! And practise Al- Munkar (disbelief and polytheism and every kind of evil wicked deed) in your meetings." But his people gave no answer except, that they said: "Bring Allah's Torment upon us if you are one of the truthful." (29:29)

5- They like to sleep with men and support gay marriage

And of course the evil hates the quran. :yes:

 

[Philomath]

I don't think you can really criticize a religion if you haven't read their texts or holy books. I find disagreement with certain things I have heard about Islam but since I haven't read the Qur'an I lack the knowledge to truly criticize it.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

What is the source for this image?

I ask because it seems to me the last line, "but often say Islam greatest force for evil today" sounds much more like someone with poor English skills added it.

Or someone constrained by the character limit of Twitter.

The tweet is still up on Twitter and the account has the "verified" check mark. Looks legit to me:

https://twitter.com/RichardDawkins/status/307369895031603200

 

[psychoslice]

Why would Richard Dawkins read the Quran when he doesn't even believe in a god, it would be a wast of time, I've read the Quran and thought it wasn't much at all, it seem to have not much love throughout its pages, much like the old testament.

 

[Penumbra]

Ok, I'm not really sure where to create this thread so I'm sorry if this isn't the right place.

Anyways, I just learnt that Richard Dawkins, who spends a good portion of his hate towards Islam, has yet to read the Quran! How can he make up his mind regarding a whole religion solely based on different manifestations and interpretations that we see today, without even reading the religion's text?

Do you think it is ignorant, or does he have the right? My point isn't about Richard Dawkins or Islam, I'm just curious whether someone is right to judge a religion without at least a decent knowledge of its texts, traditions, or whatever defines it.

What do you think?

He might as well sit down and read it due to the position he's in publicly, but one doesn't have to read the Qur'an to observe the policies in Islamic countries throughout the world.

Published rankings for gender equality put almost all Islamic countries down at the very bottom, at or below most sub-Saharan African countries, and far below other countries of similar economic development. The only Islamic countries that have a score that approaches something almost barely acceptable, are the ones that were part of the Soviet Union and had universal schooling for boys and girls until the separation.

Homosexuality is illegal in just about every Islamic country and punishable by death in some countries. Freedom of speech is restricted in most of them, especially religious freedom of speech.

Dawkins could take the time to verify that this isn't some massive fluke and that the Qur'an is actually some wonderfully benevolent, intellectual stimulating, egalitarian triumph of writing, and that every Islamic country just gets it really, really wrong, but I'm sure if he were to read it, he'd have the same opinion he has now because the content of the Qur'an does validate his criticisms of Islam.

 

[McBell]

Or someone constrained by the character limit of Twitter.

The tweet is still up on Twitter and the account has the "verified" check mark. Looks legit to me:

https://twitter.com/RichardDawkins/status/307369895031603200

Fair enough.
I just thought it strange the way the last line is worded like someone who is not familiar witht he English language.

 

[Penumbra]

Fair enough.
I just thought it strange the way the last line is worded like someone who is not familiar witht he English language.

Twitter does that to people.

 

[McBell]

Twitter does that to people.

How were you able to go back that far?
When I looked it would not let me go back that far in the history.

 

[Penumbra]

How were you able to go back that far?
When I looked it would not let me go back that far in the history.

9-10ths_Penguin is the one that presented you the link, not me.

But you're in luck! Because I actually looked at it too when it was asked if it was real, but then I saw someone already confirmed it so I didn't say it.

All I did was Google: "@RichardDawkins Haven't read Koran" and it was the first result.

And it's confirmed to be actually Richard Dawkins because of that little blue and white check mark, which Twitter puts on accounts of well-known people that provided evidence that they are who they say they are. His 800,000+ thousand followers also basically proves it's him.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

How were you able to go back that far?
When I looked it would not let me go back that far in the history.

I did a Google search for "twitter @richardddawkins Feb 28" and it came right up.

 

[Looncall]

I'd like to say that a lot of problems in the Middle East are way more complex than the simple way that it is being put. Plus, how can Islam be the source of all evil when there are countries with a population that are mainly Islamic that are relatively stable.

Edit: Now that I think about it, that last statement was kind of loaded. I will rephrase it later.

My rephrasing: To solve problems, the first thing we need is at least some understanding. When we go out and say that we'll oppose this "great evil", nothing will get done. People will become defensive, people will question one's reason if we claim to believe in such a black-and-white outlook. Which is why it's wrong when we claim something about a whole people without actually studying where people get their beliefs in the first place. If Richard Dawkins wants people of faith to listen to him, he'll need to demonstrate a deeper understanding of what they believe, and at least a basic amount of respect. Calling a religion, and by extension, the people who believe in it, a "force of evil" is not demonstrating any respect or understanding at all.

So what should one do if the religion actually is a "force of evil"? Why should a religion get a free pass just because it is a religion?

 

[Godobeyer]

Do you include your own pre-judging?
Like your pre-judging Dawkins for example...

woow , " I pre-judging Dawkins " :clap

So Dawkins is not pre-judging Quran ?

I would believe you if he said " I read Quran ,but it's evil "

so Dawkins doing evil when he said " I don't read Quran yet ,but it's evil "

 

[Godobeyer]

Are you qualified to say this without reading the writings of Richard Dawkins?

without reading the writings of Dawkins ?!!!!

I guess this thread talking about his writing in twitter only , not all what his writes

 

[Godobeyer]

Are you qualified to say this without reading the writings of Richard Dawkins?

what are you talking about ?

without reading the writings of Dawkins ?!!!!

I guess this thread talking about his post in twitter only , not all what his writes

 

[Godobeyer]

He might as well sit down and read it due to the position he's in publicly, but one doesn't have to read the Qur'an to observe the policies in Islamic countries throughout the world.

Published rankings for gender equality put almost all Islamic countries down at the very bottom, at or below most sub-Saharan African countries, and far below other countries of similar economic development. The only Islamic countries that have a score that approaches something almost barely acceptable, are the ones that were part of the Soviet Union and had universal schooling for boys and girls until the separation.

Homosexuality is illegal in just about every Islamic country and punishable by death in some countries. Freedom of speech is restricted in most of them, especially religious freedom of speech.

Dawkins could take the time to verify that this isn't some massive fluke and that the Qur'an is actually some wonderfully benevolent, intellectual stimulating, egalitarian triumph of writing, and that every Islamic country just gets it really, really wrong, but I'm sure if he were to read it, he'd have the same opinion he has now because the content of the Qur'an does validate his criticisms of Islam.

don't forget that most of islamic countries are occupated by the west in near past .

religous or economy crisses had many reasons (intern or extern ). i believe they are just temporare , we will pass this bad period .

every religion had his laws , Homosex is restricted in Vatican,and many religious areas .

btw i have question , how many countries in the world allowed homosex ?

 

[McBell]

woow , " I pre-judging Dawkins " :clap

So Dawkins is not pre-judging Quran ?

I would believe you if he said " I read Quran ,but it's evil "

so Dawkins doing evil when he said " I don't read Quran yet ,but it's evil "

The tweet says nothing about the koran being evil...
You seem confused.

 

[Godobeyer]

The tweet says nothing about the koran being evil...
You seem confused.

one of us ,is lying right now !!!

am not that one

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

what are you talking about ?

without reading the writings of Dawkins ?!!!!

I guess this thread talking about his post in twitter only , not all what his writes

If it's prejudiced to judge Islam before reading the Quran, why isn't it prejudiced to judge Dawkins (as you have done) without reading his writings? He's written many books on religion. Reading them will help you understand his position better than you would from just reading a 140-character tweet.

 

[metis]

I have read and listened to Dawkins many times on various subjects, and his main brunt of an attack is how so many in different faiths tend to cherry pick their scriptures and use their interpretations to justify all sorts of atrocities. However, he also attacks the scriptures themselves as being of human design written from a subjective and all too often myopic perspective.

Even though he may not have read the Quran entirely, I do know he's familiar with at least parts of it, including parts that are at least somewhat hostile and beyond.

 

[Godobeyer]

If it's prejudiced to judge Islam before reading the Quran, why isn't it prejudiced to judge Dawkins (as you have done) without reading his writings? He's written many books on religion. Reading them will help you understand his position better than you would from just reading a 140-character tweet.

that's other issue bro

we are discuss his prejudge about Quran in tweets .

it's just like blind one discuss the colors effect or shapes of things !!!


, we are not talking about if he is good writer or NOT to judge his ALL books .