Right to Contraception Act.

[Pogo]

LMAO!

You claimed open systems were illegal.

Lagoons and field drains are open systems and aren't illegal.

But if it makes you feel better go with it.

PS: Now you know how septic tanks work.
You are welcome

Lagoons and drainfields are not septic systems or open sewers nor can you find some law that allows them for disposal of human waste. A septic system that drains out above ground is a failed system.

 

[Pogo]

It's quite amazing when promoting the general welfare, entails the intentional loss of freedom of choice, in the country where the Preamble of the Constitution States, "We the People".

You seriously don't understand that our form of government is an agreement to limit our actions in exchange for the benefits of the society we then constitute.

Yes, We the People make this agreement for the benefit of all of us.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

In the meantime, It goes right back into the shopping cart loose , and I put it into a bin in my vehicle and go home.

That's your problem then and in no way makes it a racket.
Reuse bags and you won't have to buy any for years.

It is in every way of a racket and yet another money grab by big government.

From where I stand it just looks like you have an overinflated sense of entitlement the way you think you have a right to demand something free from the stores.

 

[Twilight Hue]

That's your problem then and in no way makes it a racket.
Reuse bags and you won't have to buy any for years.

From where I stand it just looks like you have an overinflated sense of entitlement the way you think you have a right to demand something free from the stores.

From where I stand it looks like a love for a more restricted and oppressive government is still active.

I sometimes wonder if that love for Marxism and Communism is still going on strong here in spite of saying otherwise and no longer privy to it.

 

[Twilight Hue]

You seriously don't understand that our form of government is an agreement to limit our actions in exchange for the benefits of the society we then constitute.

Yes, We the People make this agreement for the benefit of all of us.

I don't think the venue here is to deliberately taking away things that people used to do for decades, is conducive for the survival of a free society.

You seriously don't understand the importance of freedom and liberty.

 

[Pogo]

I don't think the venue here is to deliberately taking away things that people used to do for decades, is conducive for the survival of a free society.

You seriously don't understand the importance of freedom and liberty.

So bring back slavery and why did we ever give women the right to vote, .

Freedom and liberty have nothing to do with your argument, you are just selfish and unwilling to behave in a manner conducive to a society of anything but people who think just like you which fortunately is a society of one.

 

[Twilight Hue]

So bring back slavery and why did we ever give women the right to vote, .

Freedom and liberty have nothing to do with your argument, you are just selfish and unwilling to behave in a manner conducive to a society of anything but people who think just like you which fortunately is a society of one.

That's why it's for the people to decide. Not for the government to decide.

Freedom and liberty has everything to do with the argument.

You just love big government and the deep state. Pretty clear here.

 

[Pogo]

That's why it's for the people to decide. Not for the government to decide.

Freedom and liberty has everything to do with the argument.

You just love big government and the deep state. Pretty clear here.

yo, buy a clue, WE are the government and it is what we decide not what you think it was supposed to decide.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,[note 1] promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Note it doesn't say; @Twilight Hue the person of the United States. ... does ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

 

[Twilight Hue]

yo, buy a clue, WE are the government and it is what we decide not what you think it was supposed to decide.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,[note 1] promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Note it doesn't say; @Twilight Hue the person of the United States. ... does ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Yo, buy a clue as well.

It also doesn't say the Democrat Party of one voice, one mind , one state.......does ordain and establish this constitution for the United States.

 

[Pogo]

Yo, buy a clue as well.

It also doesn't say the Democrat Party of one voice, one mind , one state.......does ordain and establish this constitution for the United States.

Shall I call 911? It appears you have just run off the road and into the weeds.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Shall I call 911? It appears you have just run off the road and into the weeds.

I'll just fly the American flag upside down and put out the bat signal.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I sometimes wonder if that love for Marxism and Communism is still going on strong here in spite of saying otherwise and no longer privy to it.

Telling you to pay up and quit demanding freebies is definitely not Marxist or socialist in nature.
Amd here it was a democratic vote. That is not the same mechanisms of the Supreme Court striking Roe v Wade, it was not a corrupt Republican party stacking courts and denying Obama his appointment that did it.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Every plastic bag I get from Walmart or any other store, I put in a plastic bag. When it gets full I then take them to a clothes/food pantry and drop them off.
They reuse them for people coming there to pick up some food or other items.

I don't know where you live, here the bags are super thick, even making Menard's bags look flimsy.
That's not bad idea, and they're certainly more portable than cardboard lids and boxes from Aldi and Winco.

 

[F1fan]

That's why it's for the people to decide. Not for the government to decide.

Not when Trump and his followers rejected the election results in 2020, and some citizens attacked the Capitol under his direction and support, and how some of his insiders tried to set up fake electors in seven states to overturn the results. Government official decidd to honor the election results, not give in to Trump's corruption and election fraud. Democracy is a joint effort between voters and the government, and ethics is crucial for it to work. Trump and MAGA are clearly opposed to ethics and democracy. This includes many in government on the republican side who want another Trump presidency regardless of how it happens.

Freedom and liberty has everything to do with the argument.

Only for right wing ideas of freedom and liberty. Freedom and liberty for conservatives, not for diversity. Not for trans people. Not for gays. Not for women who need reproductive liberty. Not for democracy. Not for reputable media. Not for access to voting. Not for access to healthcare because it will cost more in taxes to the wealthy and corporations. Where in MAGA governing is there liberty? Where is the small government?

You just love big government and the deep state. Pretty clear here.

So sayeth the guy who defends MAGA polices and governing that takes away reproductive rights and limits women getting the healthcare they need. THAT's the deep state, a government who passes laws that prevent women from getting healthcare when their pregnancies go wrong. Who ban books. Who call liberals evil for regulating pollution to combat climate change. The deep state is openly denying the effectiveness of vaccines, and lying the the public. So you should be very careful what you post to members that know better than to trust anything MAGA supporters claim. All three quites here are claims, and no evidence, no coherent expnations. It's as if all you have are false sound bites, and nothing to back them up.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Telling you to pay up and quit demanding freebies is definitely not Marxist or socialist in nature.
Amd here it was a democratic vote. That is not the same mechanisms of the Supreme Court striking Roe v Wade, it was not a corrupt Republican party stacking courts and denying Obama his appointment that did it.

The decision for 'freebies' is up to the business. It's not for the government to say and dictate to businesses what they can and cannot give to their customers.

Also not to extract a fee for themselves as well on top of it.

 

[Pogo]

The decision for 'freebies' is up to the business. It's not for the government to say and dictate to businesses what they can and cannot give to their customers.

Also not to extract a fee for themselves as well on top of it.

There are no freebies, you pay for the bags one way or another and always have.

I on the other hand am happy not to have to pay to remove the single use bags from my property ( the ones my neighbors exercised their right to dispose of as they saw fit) as I exercised my right to persuade our government, the same one you tacitly accept every time you use any public infrastructure.

You don't live in a vacuum though you are welcome to try and we may all be better off for it.
Maybe that is a case where WE really doesn't include YOU.

 

[SkepticThinker]

The decision for 'freebies' is up to the business. It's not for the government to say and dictate to businesses what they can and cannot give to their customers.

Also not to extract a fee for themselves as well on top of it.

Why do you think you have the right to receive a free plastic bag from a grocery store?
Is that in the Constitution somewhere?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I on the other hand am happy not to have to pay to remove the single use bags from my property

I don't miss seeing them littered about and drifting in the air.

 

[fantome profane]

I don't miss seeing them littered about and drifting in the air.

Future generations might not ever experience the beauty of this. I hope.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Why do you think you have the right to receive a free plastic bag from a grocery store?
Is that in the Constitution somewhere?

Why do you think the government has the right to tell a business what they can and cannot do with a completely legal item that had never required a fee anytime in the past?

Also why do you think the government can extract an additional fee on a perfectly legal item?

Of course like usual you pretty much morphed the whole point into something all about me, as well as others for that matter, when it's really all about the business determining itself whether it wants to give out a legal item free or not to its customers.

What's in the constitution is the ability to identify government tyranny and attempts for government to control the means of production which by all accounts you pretty much come across as supporting.