RNA Editing of Octopus Linked to Alien Life!

[Sapiens]

Nearly all life forms share the same genetic code which is invented from beyond Earth as evident in the WOW signal of the terrestrial genetic code which I did surmise and summarized in detail. See post #23, 28-29,31. “There is no plausible chemical logic to couple directly the triplets and the amino acids. In other words, the principles of chemistry where not the sought essence of the genetic code”

“The zero is the supreme abstraction of arithmetic. Its use by any alphabet, including the genetic code, can be an indicator of artificiality.”

"The place-value decimal system represented through digital symmetry of the numbers divisible by prime number (PN 037). This arithmetical syntactic feature is an innate attribute of the genetic code. The PN 037 notation with a leading zero emphasizes zero's equal participation in the digital symmetry. Numbers written by identical digits are devised by PN 037*3=111 and 1+1+1=3 and appear regularly [from the figure: 037*6 =222 and 2+2+2=6, 037*9=333 and 3+3+3 =9, 037*4=444 and 4+4+4=12, 037*15=555 and 5+5+5=15, 037*18=666 and 6+6+6=18, 037*21=777 and 7+7+7 =21. 037*24 =888 and 8+8+8=24, 037*27=999 and 9+9+9=27.)"

"There is a complete set of information symbols utilizing the decimal syntax 111, 222, 333, 444, 555, 666, 777, 888, 999 in the genetic code. Each of these symbols consists uniformly of a carrier (balanced nucleons) and a meaning (the decimal syntax)."

This informational and artificial characteristic of the WOW signal of the terrestrial genetic code demonstrates intelligent design.
See post #23, 28-29,31. Also Reference: The "Wow! signal" of the terrestrial genetic code. Vladimir l. shCherbak and Maxim A. Makukov. Redirectinghttps://www.scribd.com/document/35302916...netic-Code

The sheer stupidity and abject ethnocentrism of WOW Signal hocus pocus lies in the assumption that base 10 is some sort of universal. My understanding is that in base 20 (Maya) or binary (where no digits but 1 and 0 exist) the construct falls apart.

 

[Polymath257]

The sheer stupidity and abject ethnocentrism of WOW Signal hocus pocus lies in the assumption that base 10 is some sort of universal. My understanding is that in base 20 (Maya) or binary (where no digits but 1 and 0 exist) the construct falls apart.

Exactly. It is dependent on the fact that 3*37=111. So any repeated digits in base 10 will have 37 as a factor.

yawn.

 

[shunyadragon]

Proven theory?!?!?! Theories are not proven! It is not even a viable hypothesis.

 

[Thief]

did anyone mention?.....a blood type based on copper

 

[Sapiens]

Exactly. It is dependent on the fact that 3*37=111. So any repeated digits in base 10 will have 37 as a factor.

yawn.

You can play the same game with 9. Any number times 9 will yield digits that when they are summed to a single digit it will be 9 (9x123=1107 then 1+1+0+7=9). Maybe the Beatles had it right ... Number 9, number 9, number 9 ... need input.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You can play the same game with 9. Any number times 9 will yield digits that when they are summed to a single digit it will be 9 (9x123=1107 then 1+1+0+7=9). Maybe the Beatles had it right ... Number 9, number 9, number 9 ... need input.

And the sum of any number divisible by three will also be divisible by three. Eleven is fun too. If a number is divisible by eleven and one adds and subtracts alternating digits one will eventually get a sum of zero. A very long number may need to be have the digits written more than once.

 

[Polymath257]

And the sum of any number divisible by three will also be divisible by three. Eleven is fun too. If a number is divisible by eleven and one adds and subtracts alternating digits one will eventually get a sum of zero. A very long number may need to be have the digits written more than once.

Those are for base 10.

If, instead, you want to use base 12, the any multiple of 11 will have digits (base 12) that add up to be a multiple of 11. And if you alternately add and subtract the base 12 digits of a multiple of 13, you will eventually get 0.

And repeating base 12 triples will all be divisible by 157 (which is 111 base 12).

 

[Subduction Zone]

Those are for base 10.

If, instead, you want to use base 12, the any multiple of 11 will have digits (base 12) that add up to be a multiple of 11. And if you alternately add and subtract the base 12 digits of a multiple of 13, you will eventually get 0.

And repeating base 12 triples will all be divisible by 157 (which is 111 base 12).

I should have used that qualifier.

Also, is it not true for any base that a number that is divisible by a number one less than the base, for example eleven in base twelve, will have digits that is ultimately add up to one less than the base?

 

[Polymath257]

I should have used that qualifier.

Also, is it not true for any base that a number that is divisible by a number one less than the base, for example eleven in base twelve, will have digits that is ultimately add up to one less than the base?

Precisely. And alternate digits for divisibility by one more than the base.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Precisely. And alternate digits for divisibility by one more than the base.

Ow my head! This conversation led me to ask "What about noninteger number bases.?" And yes, it can be done. The case of phi where integers have terminating decimals (not the right term in this case) blew me away:

Fractional and Non-Integer Number Bases | Brilliant Math & Science Wiki

I hold you personally responsible.

 

[Salvador]

The sheer stupidity and abject ethnocentrism of WOW Signal hocus pocus lies in the assumption that base 10 is some sort of universal. My understanding is that in base 20 (Maya) or binary (where no digits but 1 and 0 exist) the construct falls apart.

Well guess what, base 10 math is the mathematical system predominately used in this star system where computations are initiated by humans who typically happen to have 10 fingers each. What's so hocus pocus about that? ...

Information is an innate attribute of something conveyed by patterns/sequential order to something which processes the conveyance of patterns/sequential order into meaningful data. We creatures using a base-10 numbering system would best understand a mathematical message that's been broadcast to us in the language of a base-10 numbering system.

"The first information system emerged on the earth as primordial version of the genetic code and genetic texts. The natural appearance of arithmetic power in such a linguistic milieu is theoretically possible and practical for producing information systems of extremely high efficiency. In this case, the arithmetic symbols should be incorporated into an alphabet, i.e. the genetic code. A number is the fundamental arithmetic symbol produced by the system of numeration. If the system of numeration were detected inside the genetic code, it would be natural to expect that its purpose is arithmetic calculation e.g., for the sake of control, safety, and precise alteration of the genetic texts. The nucleons of amino acids and the bases of nucleic acids seem most suitable for embodiments of digits. These assumptions were used for the analyzing the genetic code.

The compressed, life-size, and split representation of the Escherichia coli and Euplotes octocarinatus code versions were considered simultaneously. An exact equilibration of the nucleon sums of the amino acid standard blocks and/or side chains was found repeatedly within specified sets of the genetic code. Moreover, the digital notations of the balanced sums acquired, in decimal representation, the unique form 111, 222, …, 999. This form is a consequence of the criterion of divisibility by 037. The criterion could simplify some computing mechanism of a cell if any and facilitate its computational procedure. The cooperative symmetry of the genetic code demonstrates that possibly a zero was invented and used by this mechanism. Such organization of the genetic code could be explained by activities of some hypothetical molecular organelles working as natural biocomputers of digital genetic texts.

It is well known that if mutation replaces an amino acid, the change of hydrophobicity is generally weak, while that of size is strong. The antisymmetrical correlation between the amino acid size and the degeneracy number is known as well. It is shown that these and some other familiar properties may be a physicochemical effect of arithmetic inside the genetic code.

The *frozen accident* model, giving unlimited freedom to the mapping function, could optimally support the appearance of both arithmetic symbols and physicochemical protection inside the genetic code."


Reference: Biosystems

Volume 70, Issue 3, August 2003, Pages 187-209

"Arithmetic inside the universal genetic code"

Author: Vladimir I. shCherbak

 

[Salvador]

Those are for base 10.

If, instead, you want to use base 12, the any multiple of 11 will have digits (base 12) that add up to be a multiple of 11. And if you alternately add and subtract the base 12 digits of a multiple of 13, you will eventually get 0.

And repeating base 12 triples will all be divisible by 157 (which is 111 base 12).

Base 10 math is predominately used on this planet, so please let's stick to that for now. ...

A pair of Canadian astronomers have recently concluded that the signals they've detected from the spectra of 234 stars they've surveyed and analyzed out of 2.5 million spectra are caused by light pulses generated by Extraterrestrial Intelligence to makes us aware of their existence.

"A Fourier transform analysis of 2.5 million spectra in the Sloan Digital Sky Survey was carried out to detect periodic spectral modulations. Signals having the same period were found in only 234 stars overwhelmingly in the F2 to K1 spectral range. The signals cannot be caused by instrumental or data analysis effects because they are present in only a very small fraction of stars within a narrow spectral range and because signal to noise ratio considerations predict that the signal should mostly be detected in the brightest objects, while this is not the case. We consider several possibilities, such as rotational transitions in molecules, rapid pulsations, Fourier transform of spectral lines and signals generated by Extraterrestrial Intelligence (ETI). They cannot be generated by molecules or rapid pulsations. It is highly unlikely that they come from the Fourier transform of spectral lines because too many strong lines located at nearly periodic frequencies are needed. Finally we consider the possibility, predicted in a previous published paper, that the signals are caused by light pulses generated by Extraterrestrial Intelligence to makes us aware of their existence. We find that the detected signals have exactly the shape of an ETI signal predicted in the previous publication and are therefore in agreement with this hypothesis."

[1610.03031] Discovery of peculiar periodic spectral modulations in a small fraction of solar type stars

arXiv.org > astro-ph > arXiv:1610.03031
strophysics > Solar and Stellar Astrophysics
Discovery of peculiar periodic spectral modulations in a small fraction of solar type stars
E.F. Borra, E. Trottier
(Submitted on 10 Oct 2016)

Eventually, we may be able to communicate with some of these 234 presently known advanced alien civilizations who have been advertising their existence throughout the Milky Way. Hopefully in the near future, we can survey their mathematical systems. Until then, we only know of mathematical systems used on Earth where base 10 math has been predominately used.

 

[exchemist]

Base 10 math is predominately used on this planet, so please let's stick to that for now. ...

A pair of Canadian astronomers have recently concluded that the signals they've detected from the spectra of 234 stars they've surveyed and analyzed out of 2.5 million spectra are caused by light pulses generated by Extraterrestrial Intelligence to makes us aware of their existence.

"A Fourier transform analysis of 2.5 million spectra in the Sloan Digital Sky Survey was carried out to detect periodic spectral modulations. Signals having the same period were found in only 234 stars overwhelmingly in the F2 to K1 spectral range. The signals cannot be caused by instrumental or data analysis effects because they are present in only a very small fraction of stars within a narrow spectral range and because signal to noise ratio considerations predict that the signal should mostly be detected in the brightest objects, while this is not the case. We consider several possibilities, such as rotational transitions in molecules, rapid pulsations, Fourier transform of spectral lines and signals generated by Extraterrestrial Intelligence (ETI). They cannot be generated by molecules or rapid pulsations. It is highly unlikely that they come from the Fourier transform of spectral lines because too many strong lines located at nearly periodic frequencies are needed. Finally we consider the possibility, predicted in a previous published paper, that the signals are caused by light pulses generated by Extraterrestrial Intelligence to makes us aware of their existence. We find that the detected signals have exactly the shape of an ETI signal predicted in the previous publication and are therefore in agreement with this hypothesis."

[1610.03031] Discovery of peculiar periodic spectral modulations in a small fraction of solar type stars

arXiv.org > astro-ph > arXiv:1610.03031
strophysics > Solar and Stellar Astrophysics
Discovery of peculiar periodic spectral modulations in a small fraction of solar type stars
E.F. Borra, E. Trottier
(Submitted on 10 Oct 2016)

Eventually, we may be able to communicate with some of these 234 presently known advanced alien civilizations who have been advertising their existence throughout the Milky Way. Hopefully in the near future, we can survey their mathematical systems. Until then, we only know of mathematical systems used on Earth where base 10 math has been predominately used.

Toodle-oo, I'm a teapot.

 

[Salvador]

Toodle-oo, I'm a teapot.

No, a teapot doesn't compute. You're a highly-evolved biological being like me who happens to use base 10 math as well as having the semantic message of 037 embedded in our genetic code.

 

[Sapiens]

Well guess what, base 10 math is the mathematical system predominately used in this star system where computations are initiated by humans who typically happen to have 10 fingers each. What's so hocus pocus about that? ...

... and you know this to be a fact because the little green men told you so? Consider that if Earth is aberrant and the dominant life form in this star system are octopus, then the number system would be octal (and at this stage likely is if viewed from off planet).

 

[Salvador]

. Consider that if Earth is aberrant and the dominant life form in this star system are octopus, then the number system would be octal (and at this stage likely is if viewed from off planet).

Your hypothetical scenario doesn't change the fact that 10 base math is the mathematical system predominately used to initiate computations by the most technologically advanced civilizations around this star system where humans are the sole species who've figured out the 4 fundamental forces of nature.

 

[Sapiens]

Your hypothetical scenario doesn't change the fact that 10 base math is the mathematical system predominately used to initiate computations by the most technologically advanced civilizations around this star system where humans are the sole species who've figured out the 4 fundamental forces of nature.

How do you know what "other technologically advanced civilizations around this star system" use as a base? Your assumption that they are, would be, might be, is the height of hubris, save your claim that you (or any human) has "figured out" the four (maybe five) fundamental forces. Named them, sure, described them, yes, measured them, ok, but figured them out ... hardly ... and you dare to speak of facts as though you are presenting some.

 

[Salvador]

How do you know what "other technologically advanced civilizations around this star system" use as a base? Your assumption that they are, would be, might be, is the height of hubris, save your claim that you (or any human) has "figured out" the four (maybe five) fundamental forces. Named them, sure, described them, yes, measured them, ok, but figured them out ... hardly ... and you dare to speak of facts as though you are presenting some.

Name me one technologically advanced Earthling civilization who doesn't use 10 base math? We humans are the only species intelligent enough to have identified the four fundamental forces of nature; of course, we shall eventually figure them out well enough for harnessing their power to send man-made probes to other planetary systems where we can spread the genetic code of our cosmic ancestors. ....

Panspermia Society

 

[Polymath257]

Name me one technologically advanced Earthling civilization who doesn't use 10 base math? We humans are the only species intelligent enough to have identified the four fundamental forces of nature; of course, we shall eventually figure them out well enough for harnessing their power to send man-made probes to other planetary systems where we can spread the genetic code of our cosmic ancestors. ....

Panspermia Society

So we have 10 fingers.....and 10 is a medium range number convenient for a number system base. Base 12 would be better in many ways, though.

But I'd point out we also use base 60 (for time) and many of our number names are base 20 (different number names up to nineteen).

 

[Sapiens]

Name me one technologically advanced Earthling civilization who doesn't use 10 base math? We humans are the only species intelligent enough to have identified the four fundamental forces of nature; of course, we shall eventually figure them out well enough for harnessing their power to send man-made probes to other planetary systems where we can spread the genetic code of our cosmic ancestors. ....

I already did. Do you not read?

The sheer stupidity and abject ethnocentrism of WOW Signal hocus pocus lies in the assumption that base 10 is some sort of universal. My understanding is that in base 20 (Maya) or binary (where no digits but 1 and 0 exist) the construct falls apart.